Frizell assaults woman
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He should be dropped from the All Blacks and earn is way back in by, you know, not beating up women.
@kirwan agreed, i still think playing for the AB's should be an honour, not a right, earnt on the field but not just on the field, you're representing the country at the national sport, high expectations
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The team and the sport as whole are badly run at the moment.
And the rest of entire sport is neglected so it can be based around a single team at top of the pyramid. Big problem when that team is badly run (IMO its already a big problem anyway, at time I didn't realise how seismic 2007 rest and reconditioning would be for public engagement for sub-AB rugby).
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not Frizell but another sportsman in court for Male v Female assault
in Auckland.
[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/125909053/new-zealand-international-sportsman-admits-assaulting-former-partner -
Few references above to Fizell's playing ability but I'm not sure why that should matter. Punishment for a great and an average player should be the same imo for this kind of crime.
@toddy said in Frizell assaults woman:
Few references above to Fizell's playing ability but I'm not sure why that should matter. Punishment for a great and an average player should be the same imo for this kind of crime.
I totally agree. I was saying, even from a cynical point of view, not banning him for longer makes little sense.
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He should be dropped from the All Blacks and earn is way back in by, you know, not beating up women.
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@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
Can’t help but think he wouldn’t have got off so lightly if he wasn’t an All Black.
Not so sure. It's amazing how light sentences/punishments can be for everybody, even those with a decent amount of history.
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@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
Can’t help but think he wouldn’t have got off so lightly if he wasn’t an All Black.
Not so sure. It's amazing how light sentences/punishments can be for everybody, even those with a decent amount of history.
@crazy-horse said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
Can’t help but think he wouldn’t have got off so lightly if he wasn’t an All Black.
Not so sure. It's amazing how light sentences/punishments can be for everybody, even those with a decent amount of history.
That's actually even more depressing.
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Speaking to media on Thursday, All Blacks coach Foster made it clear that the door is by no means shut on Frizell's future in the black jersey, and that the 15-test loose forward is being supported through the process.
"It's been a tough time for him personally," Foster says.
"He's gone through a process, both with the courts and New Zealand. They've come up with a conclusion that, as far as we're concerned, he's shown a good attitude as [to] how he's dealt with that.
"I know he's incredibly remorseful for that, and it's not something that any of us want.
"We're just going to keep working with him, and support him. He's still a family member for us.
@tim said in Frizell assaults woman:
Speaking to media on Thursday, All Blacks coach Foster made it clear that the door is by no means shut on Frizell's future in the black jersey, and that the 15-test loose forward is being supported through the process.
"It's been a tough time for him personally," Foster says.
"He's gone through a process, both with the courts and New Zealand. They've come up with a conclusion that, as far as we're concerned, he's shown a good attitude as [to] how he's dealt with that.
"I know he's incredibly remorseful for that, and it's not something that any of us want.
"We're just going to keep working with him, and support him. He's still a family member for us.
Better people make better All Blacks or something...
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well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
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well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
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@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
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@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
Ha, that was a fingers memory typo. Hika Elliot.
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@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
Ha, that was a fingers memory typo. Hika Elliot.
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
Ha, that was a fingers memory typo. Hika Elliot.
i know, but taking the piss was funnier than correcting.
The HB mafia will be along shortly.
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@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
Ha, that was a fingers memory typo. Hika Elliot.
i know, but taking the piss was funnier than correcting.
The HB mafia will be along shortly.
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
Ha, that was a fingers memory typo. Hika Elliot.
i know, but taking the piss was funnier than correcting.
The HB mafia will be along shortly.
I thought it was funny.
Don't think Hika did anything close to what Shannon did. Him and Ben T just got on the wrong side of the Cantab mafia running the ABs at the time.
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@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
@kirwan said in Frizell assaults woman:
@mariner4life said in Frizell assaults woman:
well well well
can we finally get rid of that oh so fucking smug "better people make better All Blacks" bullshit they still try to peddle.
because it's very fucking clear that the only thing that matters is how well you can play. and you know what, a part of me actually respects that.
I keep waiting for the time that people stop worshipping people who happen to be good at sport. It's never going to happen.
It was in place in Henry's era, its why they never looked at Hika Reid for example.
Fuck Hika Reid played a looooot longer than i remember
I know it was. But it still seems to float around. And it makes them look like dicks every time a story like this comes out.
Ha, that was a fingers memory typo. Hika Elliot.
i know, but taking the piss was funnier than correcting.
The HB mafia will be along shortly.
I thought it was funny.
Don't think Hika did anything close to what Shannon did. Him and Ben T just got on the wrong side of the Cantab mafia running the ABs at the time.
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Yeah, I definitely think the media sat on this until the NZRU made a decision, and now it's a bigger story.
@tim said in Frizell assaults woman:
Yeah, I definitely think the media sat on this until the NZRU made a decision, and now it's a bigger story.
The Herald made a meal of it today. They ran the story in news headlines and an identical story in the sports pages a few pages later. Not the first time recently. Really plumbing the depths these days to fill up pages with so many rubbish opinion articles as well. That said the facts seem to be mounting against SF. But I would have thought that the responsible and pertinent headline would have been that NZRU has stood him down from the Bledisloe next week. But that would avoid the victim statement clickbait....
