All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
i hope we get a fight
let the boys blue ref!
Queenslander!
nah, battle of brooky style!!
Do you want it to be 5 Aussies on 1 AB or the other way round?
If Foster had known there was going to be fighting he might have selected Shannon.
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
he might have selected Shannon
well experienced beating up girls
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I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.
ABs by 20+.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
i hope we get a fight
let the boys blue ref!
Queenslander!
nah, battle of brooky style!!
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
i hope we get a fight
let the boys blue ref!
Queenslander!
nah, battle of brooky style!!
One of the great League moments. I won’t say “sport moments” so as to not offend…
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- James Slipper (104 Tests)
- Brandon Paenga-Amosa (13 Tests)
- Allan Alaalatoa (47 Tests)
- Darcy Swain (4 Tests)
- Matt Philip (13 Tests)
Right now probably our best scrummaging tight 5.
- Lachlan Swinton (2 Tests)
- Michael Hooper (c) (109 Tests)
- Rob Valetini (8 Tests)
Interesting - Wilson was a bit quiet last week. Obviously trying to bring a bit of an edge with Swinton.
- Tate McDermott (6 Tests)
- Noah Lolesio (6 Tests)
Essentially: ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Matt To’omua (58 Tests)
- Hunter Paisami (10 Tests)
Really can't agree with this - while Paisami had some poor moments last week he also had some great ones, and he IS NOT A FUCKING 13. Ikitau should feel hard done by. Paisami marking Ioane is going to give the Kiwi the outside shoulder he needs.
- Marika Koroibete (37 Tests)
- Andrew Kellaway (3 Tests)
- Tom Banks (15 Tests)
Pretty much as expected, as is the bench.
@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
- James Slipper (104 Tests)
- Brandon Paenga-Amosa (13 Tests)
- Allan Alaalatoa (47 Tests)
- Darcy Swain (4 Tests)
- Matt Philip (13 Tests)
Right now probably our best scrummaging tight 5.
- Lachlan Swinton (2 Tests)
- Michael Hooper (c) (109 Tests)
- Rob Valetini (8 Tests)
Interesting - Wilson was a bit quiet last week. Obviously trying to bring a bit of an edge with Swinton.
- Tate McDermott (6 Tests)
- Noah Lolesio (6 Tests)
Essentially: ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Matt To’omua (58 Tests)
- Hunter Paisami (10 Tests)
Really can't agree with this - while Paisami had some poor moments last week he also had some great ones, and he IS NOT A FUCKING 13. Ikitau should feel hard done by. Paisami marking Ioane is going to give the Kiwi the outside shoulder he needs.
- Marika Koroibete (37 Tests)
- Andrew Kellaway (3 Tests)
- Tom Banks (15 Tests)
Pretty much as expected, as is the bench.
Bell did very well last week. I am surprised by his non selection.
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They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
I'm not even a Crusaders fan and I think you are being a tad unfair on Todd, he played well for the ABs.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
i hope we get a fight
let the boys blue ref!
Queenslander!
nah, battle of brooky style!!
@mariner4life I love how the league default is to defend himself in a boxing match with his head.
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I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.
ABs by 20+.
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.
ABs by 20+.
Dmac at 15 and Ardie still at 8... I raise one finely chiselled eyebrow. Nah, make that two hairy caterpillars.
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Just pointing out that one James Parsons suggested Dalton Papalii could play 6 7 or 8
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/because-the-all-blacks-skippers-in-the-7-you-can-fall-and-be-forgotten-under-the-radar-blues-flanker-pushing-for-a-more-prominent-all-blacks-role/“I’d like to put Dalton Papalii in the conversation for a bench spot because he can cover 6, 7 and 8,” said Parsons, a former All Blacks hooker. -
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.
ABs by 20+.
Dmac at 15 and Ardie still at 8... I raise one finely chiselled eyebrow. Nah, make that two hairy caterpillars.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.
ABs by 20+.
Dmac at 15 and Ardie still at 8... I raise one finely chiselled eyebrow. Nah, make that two hairy caterpillars.
I don’t mind Ardie at 8. I’d prefer BB at 15 but given how much Foster likes DMac, it’s no surprise he is there.
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@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
I'm not even a Crusaders fan and I think you are being a tad unfair on Todd, he played well for the ABs.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
I'm not even a Crusaders fan and I think you are being a tad unfair on Todd, he played well for the ABs.
I remember being not that excited he was selected , but then being quietly impressed with how well he went
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
I'm not even a Crusaders fan and I think you are being a tad unfair on Todd, he played well for the ABs.
I remember being not that excited he was selected , but then being quietly impressed with how well he went
@kiwiinmelb yes he wasn't a huge carrier but worked hard, was a good team player and linked extremely well I thought.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
I'm not even a Crusaders fan and I think you are being a tad unfair on Todd, he played well for the ABs.
I remember being not that excited he was selected , but then being quietly impressed with how well he went
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@toddy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
They also took journeyman Matt Todd to the last RWC so I wouldn't be too quick to rule out them taking 3 pretty decent 7's to the next world cup.
I'm not even a Crusaders fan and I think you are being a tad unfair on Todd, he played well for the ABs.
I remember being not that excited he was selected , but then being quietly impressed with how well he went
Todd and Holah were just in the wrong era. Like Hewitt, having an all time great ahead of you shouldn't take away from their qualities. Really really good flankers both of them
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Beauden wants to be a 1st 5 so probably isn't an option at fullback now. I'd quite like to see JB given a chance, only for a comparison.
I'm not expecting many changes in the starting XV but a few on the bench.
RI wants to be a 13 and is playing 11...
Beaudy had won world player of the year at first five, so is better there. Rieko set the world on fire as a winger. So not quite the same comparison, beaudy was forced to permanent full back, Ioane forced his way to centre. But beaudy had not had the time that Brodie got, I guess as ten is so hyper important. It's his own fault for going too Japan after RWC rather than staying and fighting tho
BB started as a fullback for the All Blacks, and had some of his best games there.
As for the Japan part, it's interesting noting the different attitudes to BBBR and BB doing exactly the same thing.
For sure, he's a great full back. But he's a better ten. Well he was before he was sure horned into permanent 15 because of DMac injury and then playing in Japan. Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
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Happy with minimal changes. Give Mounga and Havili another chance to get some rhythm for the potent outside backs to exploit. But I still want to see Jordie on at 12 in second half running direct and looking for offloads. Only gripe is Ardie starting at 8. Would start him at 7 and have Papalii on the bench. Pleased for Taukeiaho.
Aussie team looks a lot stronger this week and Kerevi still to come back at 13. Think they will challenge AB's to play much better. -
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
a Barrett who takes up an art, activity, or subject merely for amusement, especially in a desultory or superficial way; dabbler. a lover of an art or science, especially of a fine art. adjective. of or relating to dilettantes, or, plays for the Blues, professional Aucklander.
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Great to see an Aussie team with a guy called Len.
Funny to see people still going on about Jordie covering 12, or playing at 12, even though he's not and it's only going to happen in an emergency - I mean if there was ever a perfect chance for it to happen, it was last week - he got put on the wing. Did he even play 12 for the canes? Give it up....
Someone mentioned earlier about how we lost Kaino and should keep Ioane at 6. When I watch DP, he reminds me heeeeeeaps of Kaino. Don't see why he couldn't be 6...
At first glance, the bench backs are retarded, but not exactly any options I guess.
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Great to see an Aussie team with a guy called Len.
Funny to see people still going on about Jordie covering 12, or playing at 12, even though he's not and it's only going to happen in an emergency - I mean if there was ever a perfect chance for it to happen, it was last week - he got put on the wing. Did he even play 12 for the canes? Give it up....
Someone mentioned earlier about how we lost Kaino and should keep Ioane at 6. When I watch DP, he reminds me heeeeeeaps of Kaino. Don't see why he couldn't be 6...
At first glance, the bench backs are retarded, but not exactly any options I guess.
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@ploughboy hmmmm....nah just all a bit samey for me. Ioane at 8, bench of Robinson and Savea/Jacobson.
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We have 3 fullbacks, 2 wings and 2 halves in the backline. I don't think they're bad selections for this game, but I think they're a serious reflection on who NZR have invested in for the centres in the last few years. Yes we have Goodhue and ALB and Ennor in the wings, but 3 midfielders is nowhere close to enough depth.
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time? There's literally no-one else - Aso and Laumape have been pushed overseas, and most of the other prospects are still at least 3 years off test level. Blues only have two true midfielders in their entire squad for goodness sake.
We get annoyed at the trend of playing 10s at 15, but I think the trend of playing outside backs in the midfield is worse tbh. It's no wonder our backline seems so much more clunky than it should - we're using finishers as distributers.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
a person who cultivates an area of interest, such as the arts, without real commitment or knowledge.
