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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • canefanC canefan

    @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

    smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

    Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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    @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

    smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

    Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

    Everyone in New Zealand knew it was just a matter of time.

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    • KiapK Kiap

      @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

      How could this be quid pro quo?

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      @kiap said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

      How could this be quid pro quo?

      Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

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      • rotatedR rotated

        @kiap said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

        How could this be quid pro quo?

        Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

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        @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

        Fair enough, although I don't think RA had more than 1 agreed WA game to proceed with, that being bled 3.

        The others were being re-shopped around due to, obviously, aspects such as playing in NSW being less than optimal.

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          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

          Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
          
          Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
          
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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

            Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
            
            Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
            
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            @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

              Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
              
              Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
              
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              @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

              Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
              
              Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
              

              Kaching$

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

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                @sparky said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

                Other candidates include Reunion Island, Palau and Pitcairn Island.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                  Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                  
                  Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                  
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                  @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.

                  The time difference would suck for us unless they were night games.

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                    If it were at Twickenham I could actually take my kids to an All Black match which would be bloody emotional!

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                      Legit, this is great news except the time difference.

                      Christ, I hope we get some rugby.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Legit, this is great news except the time difference.

                        Christ, I hope we get some rugby.

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                        @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Legit, this is great news except the time difference.

                        Christ, I hope we get some rugby.

                        If they play the games at night like they used to often do, you can wake up and watch over breakfast

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                        • D Davesofthunder

                          If it were at Twickenham I could actually take my kids to an All Black match which would be bloody emotional!

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                          @davesofthunder said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          If it were at Twickenham I could actually take my kids to an All Black match which would be bloody emotional!

                          How about Jersey?

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                            There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                            • C cgrant

                              There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                              @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                              It's not safer but there is a lower chance of the tournament being disrupted or cancelled if they host it there. Covid isn't going away so we have to learn to live with it and playing tests in countries with high cases will be the new norm going forward.

                              If all the teams are fully vaccinated, and are in their bubbles then I don't see what the problem is. It will also be easier for wives and partners to travel and be with the team. After all we are going on an EOYT there anyway.

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                              • C cgrant

                                There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                                @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                                UK, Ireland and France have already double vaccinated almost anyone who wants. Certainly where I am, vaccinations are freely available for anyone over 16 . All three states have therefore lifted the vast majority of COVID restrictions.

                                The risk of cancellation is therefore significantly lower. There is a higher risk to players and management of catching Covid, but if they can offset the risk of illness by putting them in bubbles as well as vaccination.

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                                • C cgrant

                                  There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                                  @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                                  The perception is it's dangerous, thanks to MSM.

                                  With low hospitalisation and a relatively low daily death toll this part of the world is where you want to be at the moment.

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                                    mariner4life
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                                    fucking hilarious if the Aus and NZ national rugby sides are forced to play in the UK because of the wya our Governments are treating Covid

                                    hilarious in a sad and depressing way.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      fucking hilarious if the Aus and NZ national rugby sides are forced to play in the UK because of the wya our Governments are treating Covid

                                      hilarious in a sad and depressing way.

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                                      @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      fucking hilarious if the Aus and NZ national rugby sides are forced to play in the UK because of the wya our Governments are treating Covid

                                      hilarious in a sad and depressing way.

                                      If this did eventuate I think it would go a long way to driving the narrative about living with covid-19 like the rest of the developed world.

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                                        The perception is it's dangerous, thanks to MSM.

                                        With low hospitalisation and a relatively low daily death toll this part of the world is where you want to be at the moment.

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                                        @mikethesnow except Aus and NZ have even lower death and hospitilisation rates and until recently far greater freedoms. Even until the last few days the only freedom you have in UK that Kiwi's don't is to go to Corfu or Marbella.

                                        MSM spouting BS has worked both ways.

                                        I do agree this is a clever way to minimise disruption - line the unions pockets and let some ex pats see their teams

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                                        • FrankF Frank

                                          @sparky said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

                                          Other candidates include Reunion Island, Palau and Pitcairn Island.

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                                          @frank said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @sparky said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

                                          Other candidates include Reunion Island, Palau and Pitcairn Island.

                                          Rapa Nui extra points for a conversion over the tops of Moai.
                                          oh hang on, you said Pitcairn! Why not Norfolk Island, tehnically on the continent of New Zealandia, in between Australia and NZ, and tried to join NZ and leave Australia a few years ago. Plus I think they have relatives in both (mainland) countries.
                                          Just need a travel pass I think plus they could use the money
                                          http://www.norfolkisland.gov.nf/covid-19-advice-norfolk-island

                                          Otherwise, Stewart Island, as the visitors would just love the weather 🙂

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