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2021 Rugby Championship

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


    It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

    I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Games from France tend to be 9 am NZT. That would be a good time.

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      @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      Games from France tend to be 9 am NZT. That would be a good time.

      Yup Sunday morning drinking, gives you time to recover for back to work Mon AM 🙂

      EDIT: Only if you stop at lunch time tho!

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


        It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

        I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

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        @stargazer Marinos is the biggest piston wristed gibbon out there. I didn't trust a word he said last year as the SANZAAR, I mean RA, talking head.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


          It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

          I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

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          @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


          It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

          I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

          I'm so sick of all these things playing out in the media. It's fine not to trust Marinos, but there seems to be a common denominator in this poor communication (eg. Silver Lake deal) and it's Robinson.

          He seems like a likeable enough guy, he just lacks the competence for the role.

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            @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


            It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

            I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

            I'm so sick of all these things playing out in the media. It's fine not to trust Marinos, but there seems to be a common denominator in this poor communication (eg. Silver Lake deal) and it's Robinson.

            He seems like a likeable enough guy, he just lacks the competence for the role.

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            @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


            It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

            I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

            I'm so sick of all these things playing out in the media. It's fine not to trust Marinos, but there seems to be a common denominator in this poor communication (eg. Silver Lake deal) and it's Robinson.

            He seems like a likeable enough guy, he just lacks the competence for the role.

            He might, but that's awfully unprofessional of SANZAAR. It's approaching the point where NZR just might be better off not carrying these ungrateful fluffybunnies.

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              @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


              It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

              I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

              I'm so sick of all these things playing out in the media. It's fine not to trust Marinos, but there seems to be a common denominator in this poor communication (eg. Silver Lake deal) and it's Robinson.

              He seems like a likeable enough guy, he just lacks the competence for the role.

              He might, but that's awfully unprofessional of SANZAAR. It's approaching the point where NZR just might be better off not carrying these ungrateful fluffybunnies.

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              @antipodean it's really just a shame that at a time where we could be building something great with our partners, we're stuck with administrators across the board who get stuck treading water and wasting time on this sort of in-fighting.

              I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


                It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

                I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

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                @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


                It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

                I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

                Well it seems Marino if pissed with Robinson (which he would be if true) and then did same thing went to media?

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                  @antipodean it's really just a shame that at a time where we could be building something great with our partners, we're stuck with administrators across the board who get stuck treading water and wasting time on this sort of in-fighting.

                  I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

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                  @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

                  I've always thought this, but i am starting to wonder if Aus are an advantage to us at all

                  Their Super level is shit. The Wallabies are shit. And both have been for a while.

                  How long do we need to wait for them to get better to be an actual positive for the product?

                  I have no time for the saffers at all. Happy to play tests, but the rest is too hard, and the whinging too draining.

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                    @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

                    I've always thought this, but i am starting to wonder if Aus are an advantage to us at all

                    Their Super level is shit. The Wallabies are shit. And both have been for a while.

                    How long do we need to wait for them to get better to be an actual positive for the product?

                    I have no time for the saffers at all. Happy to play tests, but the rest is too hard, and the whinging too draining.

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                    @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

                    I've always thought this, but i am starting to wonder if Aus are an advantage to us at all

                    Their Super level is shit. The Wallabies are shit. And both have been for a while.

                    How long do we need to wait for them to get better to be an actual positive for the product?

                    I have no time for the saffers at all. Happy to play tests, but the rest is too hard, and the whinging too draining.

                    I don't disagree, but that just leaves us playing with ourselves unless the argies are up for something.

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                      As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                      https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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                        As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                        https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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                        @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                        https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                        It wasn't our decision was it? WA closed its doors to us

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                        • A akan004

                          As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                          https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                          https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                          If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

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                          • MajorPomM MajorPom

                            @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                            https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                            If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

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                            @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                            https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                            If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

                            Communication not great in SANZAR if true

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                              As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                              https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                              https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                              Need to earn that respect! But yeah shit call if NZR didn't let AR know.

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                              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                                https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                                If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

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                                @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

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                                  Robinson is out of his depth and should be punted.

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                                    So firstly NZ have no way to get into Perth for next week?

                                    Then we decide, without telling Aus, to pull out of a game we couldnt get to?

                                    Fuckterclust

                                    Oh I think Robinson has dont a shit job since taking over form Tew.

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                                      @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

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                                      @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                      Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                      Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                      Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

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                                        I was watching this on the TV news (see video). RA says the game could go ahead if the ABs flew to Perth on Sat. I'm not sure how if WA has suspended quarantine free travel from NZ. Unless the date of the test would be moved again? NZR don't want to send the ABs overseas without a clear plan for the other games. I'm happy with that decision. Plenty of blame all round.

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2021/08/rugby-all-blacks-perth-travel-plans-on-hold-home-tests-against-south-africa-black-ferns-v-australia-cancelled.html

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                          Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                          Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                          Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

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                                          @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                          Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                          Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                          Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

                                          How do we know what was said or not said? Maybe Robinson told RA and they got the shits and decided to whinge in public? If NZR didn't communicate that is on them. But the other parties have form

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