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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


    It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

    I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

    I'm so sick of all these things playing out in the media. It's fine not to trust Marinos, but there seems to be a common denominator in this poor communication (eg. Silver Lake deal) and it's Robinson.

    He seems like a likeable enough guy, he just lacks the competence for the role.

    He might, but that's awfully unprofessional of SANZAAR. It's approaching the point where NZR just might be better off not carrying these ungrateful fluffybunnies.

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    @antipodean it's really just a shame that at a time where we could be building something great with our partners, we're stuck with administrators across the board who get stuck treading water and wasting time on this sort of in-fighting.

    I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


      It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

      I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

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      @stargazer said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300387536/rugby-australia-boss-takes-swipe-at-new-zealand-rugby-for-scrapping-perth-trip


      It's almost like RA and SANZAAR live in another world (one without Covid). The Perth test couldn't even be played. Then why would NZR send the ABs to Perth?

      I agree that Robinson seems to be bad at dealing with situations like these (including communicating about it), but I don't trust Marinos either. He's at least as incompetent as Robinson, maybe even more incompetent.

      Well it seems Marino if pissed with Robinson (which he would be if true) and then did same thing went to media?

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      • T TJ

        @antipodean it's really just a shame that at a time where we could be building something great with our partners, we're stuck with administrators across the board who get stuck treading water and wasting time on this sort of in-fighting.

        I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

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        mariner4life
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        @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

        I've always thought this, but i am starting to wonder if Aus are an advantage to us at all

        Their Super level is shit. The Wallabies are shit. And both have been for a while.

        How long do we need to wait for them to get better to be an actual positive for the product?

        I have no time for the saffers at all. Happy to play tests, but the rest is too hard, and the whinging too draining.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

          I've always thought this, but i am starting to wonder if Aus are an advantage to us at all

          Their Super level is shit. The Wallabies are shit. And both have been for a while.

          How long do we need to wait for them to get better to be an actual positive for the product?

          I have no time for the saffers at all. Happy to play tests, but the rest is too hard, and the whinging too draining.

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          @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          @tj said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          I don't see how NZ rugby can lead a sustainable long term existance without at least some of the SANZAAR partners.

          I've always thought this, but i am starting to wonder if Aus are an advantage to us at all

          Their Super level is shit. The Wallabies are shit. And both have been for a while.

          How long do we need to wait for them to get better to be an actual positive for the product?

          I have no time for the saffers at all. Happy to play tests, but the rest is too hard, and the whinging too draining.

          I don't disagree, but that just leaves us playing with ourselves unless the argies are up for something.

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            As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

            https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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              As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

              https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

              https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

              It wasn't our decision was it? WA closed its doors to us

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              • A akan004

                As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

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                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                  @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                  https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                  If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

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                  @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                  https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                  If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

                  Communication not great in SANZAR if true

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                  • A akan004

                    As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                    https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

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                    @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                    https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                    Need to earn that respect! But yeah shit call if NZR didn't let AR know.

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                      https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                      If what he is saying is true, do you not think he has a point?

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                      @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

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                        Robinson is out of his depth and should be punted.

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                          So firstly NZ have no way to get into Perth for next week?

                          Then we decide, without telling Aus, to pull out of a game we couldnt get to?

                          Fuckterclust

                          Oh I think Robinson has dont a shit job since taking over form Tew.

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                          • A akan004

                            @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

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                            @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                            Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                            Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                            Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

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                              I was watching this on the TV news (see video). RA says the game could go ahead if the ABs flew to Perth on Sat. I'm not sure how if WA has suspended quarantine free travel from NZ. Unless the date of the test would be moved again? NZR don't want to send the ABs overseas without a clear plan for the other games. I'm happy with that decision. Plenty of blame all round.

                              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2021/08/rugby-all-blacks-perth-travel-plans-on-hold-home-tests-against-south-africa-black-ferns-v-australia-cancelled.html

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                              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

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                                @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

                                How do we know what was said or not said? Maybe Robinson told RA and they got the shits and decided to whinge in public? If NZR didn't communicate that is on them. But the other parties have form

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                  Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                  Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                  Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

                                  How do we know what was said or not said? Maybe Robinson told RA and they got the shits and decided to whinge in public? If NZR didn't communicate that is on them. But the other parties have form

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                                  @canefan see the last 3 words of my second paragraph.

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    @canefan see the last 3 words of my second paragraph.

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                                    @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    @canefan see the last 3 words of my second paragraph.

                                    Yeah. Oh to be a fly on the wall

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                                      @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                                      Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                                      
                                      Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                                      

                                      Kaching$

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                                      @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                                      Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                                      
                                      Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                                      

                                      Kaching$

                                      EXACTLY!

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                                        No sympathy for Rugby Australia. They showed their hand when they came out and declared the rest of the Rugby Championship had to be played in Perth when there were dozens of other options still on the table.

                                        This all shows an urgent need for NZR to distance itself from Rugby Australia a bit more. We have shackled ourselves to a corpse.

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                          Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                          Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

                                          Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

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                                          #154

                                          @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

                                          Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

                                          Is it really a big deal as to how he found out about the announcement? He's the coach of the team and he always knew that the likelihood of the game taking place was slim at best. Whether he found out via social media or through the proper channels ultimately makes very little difference to him as a coach.

                                          I can understand RA being annoyed if the NZR didn't communicate this with them first before releasing the press release, as they are in daily negotiations with the NZR, but Rennie is just being a piston wristed gibbon about it imo.

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