Foster, Robertson, Rennie etc
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would someone with a herald subscription be kind enough to give us the low-down here?
@kiwi_expat said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
would someone with a herald subscription be kind enough to give us the low-down here?
"New Zealand Rugby think he is the man for the job and they've given him an early call to go on and win a Rugby World Cup. We'll get in behind and support him," Robertson told the Herald.
"It's a results-based game, we know that. In high performance sport you're constantly reviewed and judged. That's part of our positions..
"He's got to a point where they feel like he's done enough. I always knew there would have to be a point where they would have to make a call and they have done that. I understand the circumstances of making a decision before they get on the plane.
"For me, I was well aware with signing my contract that this could happen. They were never clear when it was going to be but they've made the call. I've got security for myself and my family."
Foster's reappointment cements Robertson's focus for the next two years on the Crusaders and attempting to build on his remarkable record of delivering five Super Rugby titles in as many years, but he admits the next big decision on his future will come in 2023.
While Robertson is the next obvious contender, the other part of the equation from an All Blacks perspective is whether NZ Rugby again favours promoting from within, as was the case with Steve Hansen and Foster stepping up from previous assistant roles.
"I'm working really hard at mastering my craft as a coach so the next two years is a big opportunity for me to get better for whatever opportunity comes up," Robertson said.
"Time comes round quick and we're going to have to make another decision with what's right for my career moving forward.
"It will come down to the Rugby World Cup. That's top of the job description with the All Blacks to win it. You wish Ian all the best. That's high performance sport and you plan for all the opportunities in front of you.
"My role is to create an environment that the boys love and perform. My focus has always been on the Crusaders and if the opportunity came up with the All Blacks then great that would be my focus.
"I've got an incredible organisation, coaching and management to work with and the playing group is world-class so that's exciting in itself.
"It's easy to focus on once you realise they've made a call.""
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Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
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Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
Yup, that's how a professional takes bad news... Ahem Marinos, Robertson, Rennie, etc etc
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@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
Yup, that's how a professional takes bad news... Ahem Marinos, Robertson, Rennie, etc etc
@machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
Yup, that's how a professional takes bad news... Ahem Marinos, Robertson, Rennie, etc etc
yep
2 days later after having time to think and talk to spin docters -
@machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
Yup, that's how a professional takes bad news... Ahem Marinos, Robertson, Rennie, etc etc
yep
2 days later after having time to think and talk to spin doctersSpeaking of Rennie, I now prefer Cheika. His whinges are more entertaining.
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Speaking of Rennie, I now prefer Cheika. His whinges are more entertaining.
@nostrildamus said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Speaking of Rennie, I now prefer Cheika. His whinges are more entertaining.
Was thinking about this today. No wonder his teams play angry.
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Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
I would be disappointed in Razor if he said or acted any different. He knows he got a gig until 2024 and then will probably get AB job,
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@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
I would be disappointed in Razor if he said or acted any different. He knows he got a gig until 2024 and then will probably get AB job,
@dan54 said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.
I would be disappointed in Razor if he said or acted any different. He knows he got a gig until 2024 and then will probably get AB job,
He's still a young man, he has plenty of time
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Razor should start to think about who he might ask to join his AB coaching team, and keep in touch with them
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@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
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@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers
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@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers
@machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers
Isn't Holland the current coach? Or are there two of them?
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@machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers
Isn't Holland the current coach? Or are there two of them?
@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
@canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.
Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC
2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers
Isn't Holland the current coach? Or are there two of them?
Wasn't he assistant in 2015, thus
a better assistant than HC
Edit. Ignore I'm getting totally messed up, drinking since mid arvo zoom drinks, carry on, nothing to see here
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Anyone have thoughts on Jason O'Hallorans progress in Japan (haven't seen any of his team playing)
He is someone I've had hopes of rising up to become part of the AB coaching team.
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Anyone have thoughts on Jason O'Hallorans progress in Japan (haven't seen any of his team playing)
He is someone I've had hopes of rising up to become part of the AB coaching team.
@taniwharugby Jason O’Halloran is one of the best Rugby analysts I have every heard on Radio in fact I will go one step better , the best I have heard .
Is not shy to critique a players strength and weakness and with so much detail .
When he was with Dave Rennie at the Turbos, had some of the best attacking moves off set pieces I had seen and that was with a middle of the road championship team .
One can only wonder what he would bring to a team with a much higher skill level . -
The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?
@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?
Absolutely. Credit where it's due - he's improved his selections dramatically, and the team seem to be performing.
That said, I am absolutely not convinced there was a basis to reappoint based on the body of work when they made the decision. This tour was going to shape up to be critical, and so far he looks good.
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@canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:
The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?
Absolutely. Credit where it's due - he's improved his selections dramatically, and the team seem to be performing.
That said, I am absolutely not convinced there was a basis to reappoint based on the body of work when they made the decision. This tour was going to shape up to be critical, and so far he looks good.
@nzzp I guess there is the argument of stability and now he is 'safe' he can start putting a bit more of his stamp on things...certainly a step in the right direction
Agree though, the process appeared farcical, and the stupidity to put in a 2 year term was also going to create this situation, exagerrated by Covid.
