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    @berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

    Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.

    I would be disappointed in Razor if he said or acted any different. He knows he got a gig until 2024 and then will probably get AB job,

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    @dan54 said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

    @berniescorner said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

    Machpants that's a succinct, truthful and respectful response from Robertson and along with his leadership skills and associated success is exactly the reason why NZR have got it wrong. NZR are so lucky he hasn't already done a runner.

    I would be disappointed in Razor if he said or acted any different. He knows he got a gig until 2024 and then will probably get AB job,

    He's still a young man, he has plenty of time

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      Razor should start to think about who he might ask to join his AB coaching team, and keep in touch with them

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        Razor should start to think about who he might ask to join his AB coaching team, and keep in touch with them

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        @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

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          @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

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          @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

          @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

          Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

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          • canefanC canefan

            @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

            @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

            Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

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            @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

            @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

            @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

            Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

            2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers

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              @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

              @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

              @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

              Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

              2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers

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              @machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

              @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

              @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

              @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

              Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

              2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers

              Isn't Holland the current coach? Or are there two of them?

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              • canefanC canefan

                @machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

                Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

                2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers

                Isn't Holland the current coach? Or are there two of them?

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                @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @machpants said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @canes4life said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                @canefan I know Holland is on Razor's list. I heard somewhere that Razor wanted his Crusader assistants + Holland.

                Ugh. He might be a better assistant than HC

                2015 canes, right? Or have I got them messed up cos they swapped roles like a pair of coaching swingers

                Isn't Holland the current coach? Or are there two of them?

                Wasn't he assistant in 2015, thus

                a better assistant than HC

                Edit. Ignore I'm getting totally messed up, drinking since mid arvo zoom drinks, carry on, nothing to see here

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                  Anyone have thoughts on Jason O'Hallorans progress in Japan (haven't seen any of his team playing)

                  He is someone I've had hopes of rising up to become part of the AB coaching team.

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126272632/i-never-saw-the-job-as-my-right-ian-foster-opens-up-on-life-lessons-the-abs-and-family

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      Anyone have thoughts on Jason O'Hallorans progress in Japan (haven't seen any of his team playing)

                      He is someone I've had hopes of rising up to become part of the AB coaching team.

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                      @taniwharugby Jason O’Halloran is one of the best Rugby analysts I have every heard on Radio in fact I will go one step better , the best I have heard .
                      Is not shy to critique a players strength and weakness and with so much detail .
                      When he was with Dave Rennie at the Turbos, had some of the best attacking moves off set pieces I had seen and that was with a middle of the road championship team .
                      One can only wonder what he would bring to a team with a much higher skill level .

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                        The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?

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                          @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                          The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?

                          Absolutely. Credit where it's due - he's improved his selections dramatically, and the team seem to be performing.

                          That said, I am absolutely not convinced there was a basis to reappoint based on the body of work when they made the decision. This tour was going to shape up to be critical, and so far he looks good.

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                            @canefan said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                            The team seems to be coming along nicely. Less helter skelter, more physicality, lots of players coming along nicely. Are we ready to throw Foster a few credit crumbs?

                            Absolutely. Credit where it's due - he's improved his selections dramatically, and the team seem to be performing.

                            That said, I am absolutely not convinced there was a basis to reappoint based on the body of work when they made the decision. This tour was going to shape up to be critical, and so far he looks good.

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                            @nzzp I guess there is the argument of stability and now he is 'safe' he can start putting a bit more of his stamp on things...certainly a step in the right direction

                            Agree though, the process appeared farcical, and the stupidity to put in a 2 year term was also going to create this situation, exagerrated by Covid.

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                              One swallow doesn’t make a summer etc. But yes looking good, but so did Hansen ‘16. I really wanted them to do the entire year before making a decision, that’s when I will start to believe. A very succesful 2021 will almost balance out one of ABs owrst years ever in 2020. If he goes through undefeated and in style, I will say he is in the positive.

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                                What he is doing well is starting to settle in selections, he's getting a tune out of the Ioane brothers, and we are upping the physicality. If we can match the Boks up front and win next week that will be a big step forward

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  What he is doing well is starting to settle in selections, he's getting a tune out of the Ioane brothers, and we are upping the physicality. If we can match the Boks up front and win next week that will be a big step forward

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                                  @canefan yeah, his biggest criticism is that he's settling on a several people lots of us would have picked last year

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                                    Let’s not forget that we have only played against a club player filled Tonga, Fiji, a historically poor Wallabies and a defence only Argentina.
                                    I don’t think any proper judgement can be made until we play the Boks and some of the NH teams. Hopefully the trend of not making stupid selections and not using stupid tactics continues.
                                    Still got concerns over our discipline, scrum and lineout.

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                                      He even got the Chiefs to a final once...

                                      The question mark that has loomed around Foster for much of his coaching career is whether he can go from good-ish to great. Or just show some consistency.

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                                        Let’s not forget that we have only played against a club player filled Tonga, Fiji, a historically poor Wallabies and a defence only Argentina.
                                        I don’t think any proper judgement can be made until we play the Boks and some of the NH teams. Hopefully the trend of not making stupid selections and not using stupid tactics continues.
                                        Still got concerns over our discipline, scrum and lineout.

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                                        @pukunui said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                                        Let’s not forget that we have only played against a club player filled Tonga, Fiji, a historically poor Wallabies and a defence only Argentina.
                                        I don’t think any proper judgement can be made until we play the Boks and some of the NH teams. Hopefully the trend of not making stupid selections and not using stupid tactics continues.
                                        Still got concerns over our discipline, scrum and lineout.

                                        Well you say that, but Argentina scored points against the Boks. Oz beat them.

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @canefan yeah, his biggest criticism is that he's settling on a several people lots of us would have picked last year

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                                          @kiwiwomble said in Foster signs 2 year extension:

                                          @canefan yeah, his biggest criticism is that he's settling on a several people lots of us would have picked last year

                                          Or maybe he identified areas where improvement was required, and made those players work on them, to increase the capability, depth and competitiveness for every jersey? But, no, only an astute coach would do that...

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