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    I'm not sure why Sotutu is in this conversation. His NPC performances were very average.

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      very glad theyve picked someone thats going to start rather than picking a captain and then having to shoehorn him in and possibly displace someone

      Ardie has always struck me as a lead by example kind of guy, good in a lot of ways but i hope BB is going to be in his ear pointing out what the backline has on

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        I'm not sure why Sotutu is in this conversation. His NPC performances were very average.

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        @crucial he's in the squad in Aus isn't he? Then he will get game time.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          I think it will come down to whether they want Papali’i or Jacobsen starting. There’s definitely merit in both, but I’m leaning that they go with 1 and they have Jacobsen or Sotutu on the bench.

          Sotutu is only a no.8 so his lack of utility will count against him. Jacobson can play 6/7/8, Papalii 6/7 and Savea 7/8 so there are options and versatility with those players. It is also likely that it is Ioane who will be subbed more often than Papalii so there is less disruption if Jacobson just slots into 6. The fun will start when Cane is back and who gets the bench loose forward position.

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          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          I think it will come down to whether they want Papali’i or Jacobsen starting. There’s definitely merit in both, but I’m leaning that they go with 1 and they have Jacobsen or Sotutu on the bench.

          Sotutu is only a no.8 so his lack of utility will count against him. Jacobson can play 6/7/8, Papalii 6/7 and Savea 7/8 so there are options and versatility with those players. It is also likely that it is Ioane who will be subbed more often than Papalii so there is less disruption if Jacobson just slots into 6. The fun will start when Cane is back and who gets the bench loose forward position.

          Sotutu has come off the bench for the ABs 4 out of his 6 tests, so I don’t think it’s too much of an issue. And on each of those occasions he’s replaced the blindside flanker.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

            I think it will come down to whether they want Papali’i or Jacobsen starting. There’s definitely merit in both, but I’m leaning that they go with 1 and they have Jacobsen or Sotutu on the bench.

            Sotutu is only a no.8 so his lack of utility will count against him. Jacobson can play 6/7/8, Papalii 6/7 and Savea 7/8 so there are options and versatility with those players. It is also likely that it is Ioane who will be subbed more often than Papalii so there is less disruption if Jacobson just slots into 6. The fun will start when Cane is back and who gets the bench loose forward position.

            Sotutu has come off the bench for the ABs 4 out of his 6 tests, so I don’t think it’s too much of an issue. And on each of those occasions he’s replaced the blindside flanker.

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            @act-crusader And Savea moved to 6. I don't think that is an ideal situation either.

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              I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

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                @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                To be fair he’s had one opportunity this season, so it’s hardly worth giving up on him just yet given the opportunities that lay ahead.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                  I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                  To be fair he’s had one opportunity this season, so it’s hardly worth giving up on him just yet given the opportunities that lay ahead.

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                  @act-crusader true although you could also argue he hasn't shown enough in training to earn a spot

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                    I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                    To be fair he’s had one opportunity this season, so it’s hardly worth giving up on him just yet given the opportunities that lay ahead.

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                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                    I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                    To be fair he’s had one opportunity this season, so it’s hardly worth giving up on him just yet given the opportunities that lay ahead.

                    I wouldn’t give up on him ,
                    He has just slid down the pecking order at the moment .

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

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                      @chris Not Blackadder but yes to everyone else and rightly so.

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                        Jordie deserves a start IMO.

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300394812/all-blacks-vs-wallabies-time-to-let-jordie-barrett-off-the-leash-at-fullback

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                          I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                          To be fair he’s had one opportunity this season, so it’s hardly worth giving up on him just yet given the opportunities that lay ahead.

                          I wouldn’t give up on him ,
                          He has just slid down the pecking order at the moment .

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                          @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

                          I can not see due to NPC or AB form so far this season why Sotutu is coming into a selection debate.Way behind the 3 starters from the last test, as well as Jacobsen and Blackadder.

                          To be fair he’s had one opportunity this season, so it’s hardly worth giving up on him just yet given the opportunities that lay ahead.

                          I wouldn’t give up on him ,
                          He has just slid down the pecking order at the moment .

                          Always a brilliant Dad joke back when Jeremy Thrush and Dominic Bird were in the team.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            Jordie deserves a start IMO.

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300394812/all-blacks-vs-wallabies-time-to-let-jordie-barrett-off-the-leash-at-fullback

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                            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Jordie deserves a start IMO.

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300394812/all-blacks-vs-wallabies-time-to-let-jordie-barrett-off-the-leash-at-fullback

                            So C4L is Marc Hinton, well that explains a lot

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Jordie deserves a start IMO.

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300394812/all-blacks-vs-wallabies-time-to-let-jordie-barrett-off-the-leash-at-fullback

                              So C4L is Marc Hinton, well that explains a lot

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                              @act-crusader oh shit, you got me.

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                                How many starts has he had at fullback?

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                                  How many starts has he had at fullback?

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                                  @kirwan pretty sure he's started on the wing more times than he has at fullback. Point is he deserves a good crack at fullback with the way he's played at Super level for the last two years.

                                  We haven't seen Jordie and Jordan team up together in the backfield yet so hopefully that becomes true over the next couple of months.

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126232760/all-black-coach-ian-fosters-important-call-to-roger-tuivasasheck

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                                      I see lots of people expecting BB to "carve up" or "take his opportunity" to "put pressure" on RM this week. Bit of a shit sandwich if you ask me. Fly to Perth with key players left behind. Still tinkering with our back row. TJ back in the 9 jumper. He could easily have some pretty average ball to use.

                                      I hope he goes well, but I won't be jumping on the bandwagon to bag him if he doesn't.

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                                      • voodooV voodoo

                                        I see lots of people expecting BB to "carve up" or "take his opportunity" to "put pressure" on RM this week. Bit of a shit sandwich if you ask me. Fly to Perth with key players left behind. Still tinkering with our back row. TJ back in the 9 jumper. He could easily have some pretty average ball to use.

                                        I hope he goes well, but I won't be jumping on the bandwagon to bag him if he doesn't.

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                                        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        I won't be jumping on the bandwagon to bag him if he doesn't

                                        yeah look i just don't think you are fitting in around here...

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                                        • voodooV voodoo

                                          I see lots of people expecting BB to "carve up" or "take his opportunity" to "put pressure" on RM this week. Bit of a shit sandwich if you ask me. Fly to Perth with key players left behind. Still tinkering with our back row. TJ back in the 9 jumper. He could easily have some pretty average ball to use.

                                          I hope he goes well, but I won't be jumping on the bandwagon to bag him if he doesn't.

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                                          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          I see lots of people expecting BB to "carve up" or "take his opportunity" to "put pressure" on RM this week. Bit of a shit sandwich if you ask me. Fly to Perth with key players left behind. Still tinkering with our back row. TJ back in the 9 jumper. He could easily have some pretty average ball to use.

                                          I hope he goes well, but I won't be jumping on the bandwagon to bag him if he doesn't.

                                          He will at least get 3 games in a row at 10

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