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All Blacks EOYT 2021

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

    @victor-meldrew Umm until he played like an absolute fuckwit against SA, yeah sure, Ioane was looking great.

    If you are going to judge on one game, I give you Kaino in 2017. He was anonymous and pulled against against the Lions in the 1st Test and then his YC in the 3rd....

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    @victor-meldrew said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

    @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

    @victor-meldrew Umm until he played like an absolute fuckwit against SA, yeah sure, Ioane was looking great.

    If you are going to judge on one game, I give you Kaino in 2017. He was anonymous and pulled against against the Lions in the 1st Test and then his YC in the 3rd....

    Couldn't think of a less relevant comparison. 2017 Kaino was at the very tail end of his career and was already a great. That comparison just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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      @victor-meldrew said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      @victor-meldrew Umm until he played like an absolute fuckwit against SA, yeah sure, Ioane was looking great.

      If you are going to judge on one game, I give you Kaino in 2017. He was anonymous and pulled against against the Lions in the 1st Test and then his YC in the 3rd....

      Couldn't think of a less relevant comparison. 2017 Kaino was at the very tail end of his career and was already a great. That comparison just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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      @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      Couldn't think of a less relevant comparison. 2017 Kaino was at the very tail end of his career and was already a great. That comparison just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

      Totally agree with you. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to judge a player on one game. That was the point I was making when responding to your comments on Akira Ioane's poor game on Saturday

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @duluth one of these is a big blindside flanker...is he still injured?

        Big Red

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        @nostrildamus said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

        @duluth one of these is a big blindside flanker...is he still injured?

        Big Red

        Did Telea think he was going to prison?

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        • sharkS shark

          @victor-meldrew Umm until he played like an absolute fuckwit against SA, yeah sure, Ioane was looking great.

          As for Vito and Messam struggling to get in ahead of the mob we have now? Ludicrous.

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          @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

          @victor-meldrew Umm until he played like an absolute fuckwit against SA, yeah sure, Ioane was looking great.

          As for Vito and Messam struggling to get in ahead of the mob we have now? Ludicrous.

          Played like a fuckwit? Really?

          I’d reserve that for people like Greylings, Krige, McRae.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

            Couldn't think of a less relevant comparison. 2017 Kaino was at the very tail end of his career and was already a great. That comparison just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

            Totally agree with you. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to judge a player on one game. That was the point I was making when responding to your comments on Akira Ioane's poor game on Saturday

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            @victor-meldrew said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

            @shark said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

            Couldn't think of a less relevant comparison. 2017 Kaino was at the very tail end of his career and was already a great. That comparison just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

            Totally agree with you. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to judge a player on one game. That was the point I was making when responding to your comments on Akira Ioane's poor game on Saturday

            That's trying to explain a nonsensical comparison with more nonsense.

            Kaino is remembered for an outstanding career, two RWC wins, and might just be the GOAT at 6. No-one judges him based on those games.

            Ioane is starting out at international level and was just starting to look the part when he came badly unstuck in a game many suspected might find him out. He should have an opportunity to atone for that this weekend but if he can't that'll simply reinforce he's little more than another Frizzel. It's 100% fair to weigh up a judgement based on his body of work thus far with an emphasis on his last game as it was such a significant one.

            That your post garnered two likes says so much about the fanatical Akira Ioane support from the Auckland posters!

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              Anyways, I never actually said I was judging Ioane on one game. I gave him credit for his improvement until the SA game and then stated the obvious around his terrible performance in a crunch game. Am I actually "judging" him on that? No, but I'm taking it into account and giving it much more weight than many of his previous performances. Is that not fair?

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                Just remembered that Sam Whitelock will be back for the EOYT, but that Scott Barrett will travel home at some point for the birth of his first child.

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                  When is the team named?

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                    When is the team named?

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                    @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                    When is the team named?

                    Today

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                      @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                      When is the team named?

                      Today

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                      @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

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                        @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

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                        @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                        @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

                        Maybe Pari Pari Parkinson if he’s bulked up to @Bones satisfaction ?

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                          @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                          @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

                          Doubt it. Cane, Whitelock, Coles and Frizell will probably be the additions.

                          I would like for them to include a young lock, we need to build more depth there. He can take Frizell's place.

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                            @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                            @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

                            Maybe Pari Pari Parkinson if he’s bulked up to @Bones satisfaction ?

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                            @mn5 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                            @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                            @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

                            Maybe Pari Pari Parkinson if he’s bulked up to @Bones satisfaction ?

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126570325/all-blacks-sam-cane-sam-whitelock-and-dane-coles-set-to-join-squad-in-washington

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                              @mn5 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                              @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                              @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

                              Maybe Pari Pari Parkinson if he’s bulked up to @Bones satisfaction ?

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126570325/all-blacks-sam-cane-sam-whitelock-and-dane-coles-set-to-join-squad-in-washington

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                              @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                              @mn5 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                              @pakman said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                              @akan004 anyone expect any bolters?

                              Maybe Pari Pari Parkinson if he’s bulked up to @Bones satisfaction ?

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126570325/all-blacks-sam-cane-sam-whitelock-and-dane-coles-set-to-join-squad-in-washington

                              That's a lot of experience there. They may not be at their peak physically anymore, but experience is huge for our team right now

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                                Who is this Dane Doles guy they have brought in?

                                "Sammy Whitelock, Sam Cane and Dane Doles are all hoping to try to get a run around this weekend in New Zealand before they come over."

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                                  Brilliant. He has the most potential of the young locks imo.

                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1444799424115449857

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                                    Interesting choice. Three AB locks from Taranaki, although I assume he will be replacing Barrett.

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                                      Brilliant. He has the most potential of the young locks imo.

                                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1444799424115449857

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                                      @akan004 really unexpected but good to get him on the environment early.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Interesting choice. Three AB locks from Taranaki, although I assume he will be replacing Barrett.

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                                        @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                                        Interesting choice. Three AB locks from Taranaki, although I assume he will be replacing Barrett.

                                        What's happened to Barrett?

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                                          @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                                          Interesting choice. Three AB locks from Taranaki, although I assume he will be replacing Barrett.

                                          What's happened to Barrett?

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                                          @canefan said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                                          @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                                          Interesting choice. Three AB locks from Taranaki, although I assume he will be replacing Barrett.

                                          What's happened to Barrett?

                                          Baby coming.

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