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  • S stodders

    @machpants good read that. Cohesion. Trust. Vital ingredients. You have to trust the gameplan, even if it is not quite working. How many times under McCaw did the ABs chase down other teams because they trusted each other and the gameplan?

    ABs have a raft of new faces. It takes time to bed them in and build up the trust and cohesion in the team. Backrow and centres is a great case in point. Foster needs to play settled combinations so they can learn to subconsciously understand each others games. In tests like the one just passed, split second hesitation can result in a bombed try opportunity or a misalignment on defence.

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    @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

    @machpants good read that. Cohesion. Trust. Vital ingredients. You have to trust the gameplan, even if it is not quite working. How many times under McCaw did the ABs chase down other teams because they trusted each other and the gameplan?

    ABs have a raft of new faces. It takes time to bed them in and build up the trust and cohesion in the team. Backrow and centres is a great case in point. Foster needs to play settled combinations so they can learn to subconsciously understand each others games. In tests like the one just passed, split second hesitation can result in a bombed try opportunity or a misalignment on defence.

    While I agree with your point about combinations 1000%, it totally blows my mind that us plebs on internet forums have to keep making the point like it's some sort of revelation. Surely any coach knows this, so how is it possible that we keep having so many different combinations in the back row and the centres in particular? I get injuries and the need to blood new players, but generally those are both more manageable than we have made it appear,

    We had a golden run with Kaino, Read, McCaw + Ma'a, Conrad, but both before and since, it feels like we have neglected the idea of combinations being important in favour of getting certain guys on the field

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      @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

      @machpants good read that. Cohesion. Trust. Vital ingredients. You have to trust the gameplan, even if it is not quite working. How many times under McCaw did the ABs chase down other teams because they trusted each other and the gameplan?

      ABs have a raft of new faces. It takes time to bed them in and build up the trust and cohesion in the team. Backrow and centres is a great case in point. Foster needs to play settled combinations so they can learn to subconsciously understand each others games. In tests like the one just passed, split second hesitation can result in a bombed try opportunity or a misalignment on defence.

      While I agree with your point about combinations 1000%, it totally blows my mind that us plebs on internet forums have to keep making the point like it's some sort of revelation. Surely any coach knows this, so how is it possible that we keep having so many different combinations in the back row and the centres in particular? I get injuries and the need to blood new players, but generally those are both more manageable than we have made it appear,

      We had a golden run with Kaino, Read, McCaw + Ma'a, Conrad, but both before and since, it feels like we have neglected the idea of combinations being important in favour of getting certain guys on the field

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      @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

      @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

      @machpants good read that. Cohesion. Trust. Vital ingredients. You have to trust the gameplan, even if it is not quite working. How many times under McCaw did the ABs chase down other teams because they trusted each other and the gameplan?

      ABs have a raft of new faces. It takes time to bed them in and build up the trust and cohesion in the team. Backrow and centres is a great case in point. Foster needs to play settled combinations so they can learn to subconsciously understand each others games. In tests like the one just passed, split second hesitation can result in a bombed try opportunity or a misalignment on defence.

      While I agree with your point about combinations 1000%, it totally blows my mind that us plebs on internet forums have to keep making the point like it's some sort of revelation. Surely any coach knows this, so how is it possible that we keep having so many different combinations in the back row and the centres in particular? I get injuries and the need to blood new players, but generally those are both more manageable than we have made it appear,

      We had a golden run with Kaino, Read, McCaw + Ma'a, Conrad, but both before and since, it feels like we have neglected the idea of combinations being important in favour of getting certain guys on the field

      I think the chemistry has to be right. Some combinations just gel. Others just don't, even if you have 3 individually brilliant players. The AB focus has to be on the front five providing a better platform. Get that right, and the ABs have players to put in the backrow that will be able to showcase their offensive abilities.

      If the front five can't be sorted or AB management don't believe they have the players to control the game, then ABs need to select a backrow that can work hard under pressure and has the ability to grind things out.

      Two v different backrows and skillsets needed for those scenarios.

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        Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

        Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

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        • barbarianB barbarian

          Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

          Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

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          @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

          Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

          Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

          Apologies Barbarian. Oz are on an upward trajectory and will sweep all before them in NH. better?

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            @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

            Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

            Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

            Apologies Barbarian. Oz are on an upward trajectory and will sweep all before them in NH. better?

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            @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

            @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

            Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

            Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

            Apologies Barbarian. Oz are on an upward trajectory and will sweep all before them in NH. better?

            Yes. Frankly I'd be surprised if we lose another game in my lifetime. We're at the start of a golden era which will be spoken of for centuries to come.

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              @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

              @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

              Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

              Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

              Apologies Barbarian. Oz are on an upward trajectory and will sweep all before them in NH. better?

              Yes. Frankly I'd be surprised if we lose another game in my lifetime. We're at the start of a golden era which will be spoken of for centuries to come.

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              @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

              @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

              @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

              Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

              Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

              Apologies Barbarian. Oz are on an upward trajectory and will sweep all before them in NH. better?

              Yes. Frankly I'd be surprised if we lose another game in my lifetime. We're at the start of a golden era which will be spoken of for centuries to come.

              "Ah what? Another World Cup?!! Just throw it on the pile with the rest, cobber...."

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                @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                @stodders said in Aussie Rugby:

                @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                Read the title of the thread fellas. Get that rubbish chat out of here.

                Unless you are continually referring to Allan Border, in which case... carry on.

                Apologies Barbarian. Oz are on an upward trajectory and will sweep all before them in NH. better?

                Yes. Frankly I'd be surprised if we lose another game in my lifetime. We're at the start of a golden era which will be spoken of for centuries to come.

                "Ah what? Another World Cup?!! Just throw it on the pile with the rest, cobber...."

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                @nta Knowing Aussie rugby fans, it would be closer to "Yes, we won our 13th straight cup, and I suppose that is a positive, but our lineout was a shambles and things fell to pieces when the bench came on once we got up by 40. If coach Quade Cooper doesn't fix those up I just can't see us holding on to the Bledisloe for the 53rd straight year."

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                • barbarianB barbarian

                  @nta Knowing Aussie rugby fans, it would be closer to "Yes, we won our 13th straight cup, and I suppose that is a positive, but our lineout was a shambles and things fell to pieces when the bench came on once we got up by 40. If coach Quade Cooper doesn't fix those up I just can't see us holding on to the Bledisloe for the 53rd straight year."

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                  @barbarian 🤔 so... Basically Kiwis?

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                    And you just KNOW Brumbies fans would be spewing about something.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @barbarian 🤔 so... Basically Kiwis?

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                      @nta said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @barbarian 🤔 so... Basically Kiwis?

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                        so, i had the morning news on and they had the weather guy out doing his thing from some brand new pavilion/stand in west sydney, they specifically talked about how it was mainly for a Rugby Union club (although they hope to use it for lots of sports)

                        they had the representative of the club come on to give a we plug and was asked about Rugby UNION in west sydney.....his reply...."yeah, Unions really big and we expect a lot of interest after THE PANTHERS won the final the other week"

                        ...his go too example of something that would drive up interest IS FROM ANOTHER SPORT!..not the wallabies beating the bokke twice....not a new super rugby comp.....this is whats broken in aussie rugby

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                          Kautai won't be playing for MP.

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300436477/brumbies-release-exwarrior-solomone-kata-from-super-rugby-contract

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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300436477/brumbies-release-exwarrior-solomone-kata-from-super-rugby-contract

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                              @tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300436477/brumbies-release-exwarrior-solomone-kata-from-super-rugby-contract

                              I wonder if he's signed for MP? I'm assuming the Blues aren't that stupid.

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                                https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-union/concussion-ends-haylett-petty-rugby-career-c-4465680

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                                  https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-union/concussion-ends-haylett-petty-rugby-career-c-4465680

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                                  @nta said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-union/concussion-ends-haylett-petty-rugby-career-c-4465680

                                  Ah, that makes me sad. Real shame, but have to look after the noggin first. Hope he's OK longer term

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                                    Interesting stat

                                    Over the course of ENG's 8-0 winning run O.Farrell has scored 150 points vs wallabies 151. Farrell's points alone would have won ENG 5 of the 8. Ninety six of OF's points have come from penalty goals. Ongoing indiscipline is killing us. When will we learn

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                                      Interesting stat

                                      Over the course of ENG's 8-0 winning run O.Farrell has scored 150 points vs wallabies 151. Farrell's points alone would have won ENG 5 of the 8. Ninety six of OF's points have come from penalty goals. Ongoing indiscipline is killing us. When will we learn

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                                      @machpants it is discipline but it is on the back of territory and possession to England. Simple game - piggyback it down field and use your retention to set up for goal kicks.

                                      If we reduce the Wallabies' handling errors by 50% on Saturday they stand a very good chance to win the game, and reducing the penalty count against.

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                                        Anyway, the good news story out of Australia Rugby this week: I managed to secure $50K in grants to buy our club some seating.

                                        We're not a large club, and really this grant was pure speculation on my part. We weren't contributing anything to it. We didn't get DA because we sort of didn't need it, and in a couple of months we'll take delivery of two of these beauties:

                                        https://felton.net.au/shop/grandstands/elite-portable-grandstand/

                                        Pretty fucking happy Club Secretary right here. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          Anyway, the good news story out of Australia Rugby this week: I managed to secure $50K in grants to buy our club some seating.

                                          We're not a large club, and really this grant was pure speculation on my part. We weren't contributing anything to it. We didn't get DA because we sort of didn't need it, and in a couple of months we'll take delivery of two of these beauties:

                                          https://felton.net.au/shop/grandstands/elite-portable-grandstand/

                                          Pretty fucking happy Club Secretary right here. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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                                          @nta said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          Anyway, the good news story out of Australia Rugby this week: I managed to secure $50K in grants to buy our club some seating.

                                          We're not a large club, and really this grant was pure speculation on my part. We weren't contributing anything to it. We didn't get DA because we sort of didn't need it, and in a couple of months we'll take delivery of two of these beauties:

                                          https://felton.net.au/shop/grandstands/elite-portable-grandstand/

                                          Pretty fucking happy Club Secretary right here. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

                                          That's awesome. Can't wait to hear about the shenanigans that the lads get up to underneath those

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