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Yeah, but it was still the guy who turned him into a mechanical freak and who he probably blamed for Padme. Even your most chilled pot smoking hippy is likely to flip at the thought of those memories.<br><br>
The mechanical argument is a bit meh. He has access to the best hardware in the galaxy. If anything it would make him bigger and stronger. Also Obi isn't THAT old and his powers shouldn't be that weak. What was he doing on Tatooine the entire time? Scaring sand people? -
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<p>Yeah, but it was still the guy who turned him into a mechanical freak and who he probably blamed for Padme. Even your most chilled pot smoking hippy is likely to flip at the thought of those memories.<br><br>
The mechanical argument is a bit meh. He has access to the best hardware in the galaxy. If anything it would make him bigger and stronger. Also Obi isn't THAT old and his powers shouldn't be that weak. What was he doing on Tatooine the entire time? Scaring sand people?</p>
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<p>DV could still be pretty mobile when he had to be and was freakishly strong through the force and the metal arms and legs. However he lost quite a bit of potential due to the force relying on living matter, of which he lost a lot of.....if anything the prequels proved what a badass Obi Wan actually was in his day. I don't buy Yodas argument that he would have been too weak to face the Emperor.</p> -
I always thought the Force was more a power of the mind thing. Despite his missing parts, Vader would still have the same midichlorin count.<br><br>
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<p>I always thought the Force was more a power of the mind thing. Despite his missing parts, Vader would still have the same midichlorin count.<br><br>
Obi Wan is a bit tainted by having been handed his arse twice by Dooku.</p>
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<p>Yeah but Dooku was one of the best force users of his era, up with Palpatine, Yodes and Windu. Definitely an underrated fighter in the same way Darth Maul was overrated ( lets not forget Obi Wan was a padawan when they fought ).</p>
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<p>To me that was the biggest fuck up of the prequels (ok, one of many). The Vader v Obi Wan fight in Star Wars was written off as being slow because they were old. And then they went and made them young as fuck in the prequels, meaning they went from mid-20s and 30s to their 60s in 18 years. </p>
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<p>maybe the force ages you faster?</p>
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<p>To me that was the biggest fuck up of the prequels (ok, one of many). The Vader v Obi Wan fight in Star Wars was written off as being slow because they were old. And then they went and made them young as fuck in the prequels, meaning they went from mid-20s and 30s to their 60s in 18 years. </p>
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<p>Obi Wan woulda been over 40 when he wasted Annekin first time round, Annekin woulda been late 20s so 60 odd vs late 40s is entirely plausible. They were early 20s and about 8 or 9 when they first met. No Jar Jar level fuck ups there.</p> -
<p>Jar Jar looks quite young though.</p>
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<p>Jar Jar looks quite young though.</p>
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<p>MN5 jr the older loved seeing Admiral Ackbar again in TFA and said he bet he'd taste nice on a Barbie.</p> -
<p>Ackbar looks ancient, be a bit tough I reckon.</p>
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I had (actually still have) an Akbar figure. I used to call him fillet o fish.
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Yes without their capital ships they had no fleet worth a damn.<br><br>
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<p>He's from a planet called Mon Calamari, bet the seafood there is beautiful.</p>
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<p>Mind you we shouldn't take the piss, without his co-ordination and leadership the rebels woulda been fucked.</p>
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<p>For a supposed tactical genius he didn't see that 'it's a trap' until too late.</p>
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<p>Pity that the change of canon seems to have killed off General Thrawn as he was the Empire's tactical genius equivalent of Ackbar. </p>
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<p><strong>For a supposed tactical genius he didn't see that 'it's a trap' until too late.</strong></p>
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<p>Pity that the change of canon seems to have killed off General Thrawn as he was the Empire's tactical genius equivalent of Ackbar. </p>
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<p>(although some geeks are hinting that the unknown dude in Rouge One could be Thrawn)</p>
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<p>Squid like creature barely getting used to breathing in the air rather than underwater vs the most powerful Sith lord ever ? I think he more than held his own.</p>
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<p>He was the backbone while Luke was fucking round with his "feelings" and family issues, Han was trying to one up Lando who wanted to give Leia a bit of the black D and the droids and Chewie were goofing off impersonating deities and such.</p>
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<p>Admiral Ackbar is the most unsung hero in Star Wars history.</p> -
It would be great to see a movie with a bigger role for Ackbar but that won't happen unfortunately.<br><br>
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Are those novels now considered canon?<br><br>
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Only two novels currently canon. "Aftermath", which has a part 2 coming in a few months and one just released which is centred around Leia and explains some of the Kylo backstory. <br>
Considering that the EU novels also covered the period of the new movies and was quite different, they kind of had to abandon all of it.
