Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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<p>To me that was the biggest fuck up of the prequels (ok, one of many). The Vader v Obi Wan fight in Star Wars was written off as being slow because they were old. And then they went and made them young as fuck in the prequels, meaning they went from mid-20s and 30s to their 60s in 18 years. </p>
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<p>maybe the force ages you faster?</p>
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<p>To me that was the biggest fuck up of the prequels (ok, one of many). The Vader v Obi Wan fight in Star Wars was written off as being slow because they were old. And then they went and made them young as fuck in the prequels, meaning they went from mid-20s and 30s to their 60s in 18 years. </p>
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<p>Obi Wan woulda been over 40 when he wasted Annekin first time round, Annekin woulda been late 20s so 60 odd vs late 40s is entirely plausible. They were early 20s and about 8 or 9 when they first met. No Jar Jar level fuck ups there.</p> -
<p>Jar Jar looks quite young though.</p>
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<p>Jar Jar looks quite young though.</p>
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<p>MN5 jr the older loved seeing Admiral Ackbar again in TFA and said he bet he'd taste nice on a Barbie.</p> -
<p>Ackbar looks ancient, be a bit tough I reckon.</p>
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I had (actually still have) an Akbar figure. I used to call him fillet o fish.
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Yes without their capital ships they had no fleet worth a damn.<br><br>
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<p>He's from a planet called Mon Calamari, bet the seafood there is beautiful.</p>
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<p>Mind you we shouldn't take the piss, without his co-ordination and leadership the rebels woulda been fucked.</p>
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<p>For a supposed tactical genius he didn't see that 'it's a trap' until too late.</p>
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<p>Pity that the change of canon seems to have killed off General Thrawn as he was the Empire's tactical genius equivalent of Ackbar. </p>
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<p><strong>For a supposed tactical genius he didn't see that 'it's a trap' until too late.</strong></p>
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<p>Pity that the change of canon seems to have killed off General Thrawn as he was the Empire's tactical genius equivalent of Ackbar. </p>
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<p>(although some geeks are hinting that the unknown dude in Rouge One could be Thrawn)</p>
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<p>Squid like creature barely getting used to breathing in the air rather than underwater vs the most powerful Sith lord ever ? I think he more than held his own.</p>
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<p>He was the backbone while Luke was fucking round with his "feelings" and family issues, Han was trying to one up Lando who wanted to give Leia a bit of the black D and the droids and Chewie were goofing off impersonating deities and such.</p>
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<p>Admiral Ackbar is the most unsung hero in Star Wars history.</p> -
It would be great to see a movie with a bigger role for Ackbar but that won't happen unfortunately.<br><br>
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Are those novels now considered canon?<br><br>
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Only two novels currently canon. "Aftermath", which has a part 2 coming in a few months and one just released which is centred around Leia and explains some of the Kylo backstory. <br>
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<p>I foresee Fatwa.</p>
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<p>I'm wary of some of those EU books. I heard of one where apparently the Wampa ( big white snow monster ) that Luke disarmed in ESB met him again years later on Hoth and tried to take revenge. I seriously hope that's not "canon" cos that story sounds fucken ridiculous.</p>
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<p>EDIT, Wookiepedia confirms the truth of this.....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/One-Arm'>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/One-Arm</a></p> -
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<p>I'm wary of some of those EU books. I heard of one where apparently the Wampa ( big white snow monster ) that Luke disarmed in ESB met him again years later on Hoth and tried to take revenge. I seriously hope that's not "canon" cos that story sounds fucken ridiculous.</p>
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<p>EDIT, Wookiepedia confirms the truth of this.....</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/One-Arm'>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/One-Arm</a></p>
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<p>I read quite a few of the novels and yes, there were some absolute shite stories in among them. There were also some really good ones.</p>
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<p>I mentioned the General Thrawn stuff. That particular trilogy stands out as good. After a while the novels drifted in to being about Han and Leia's kids and Luke's partner.</p>
<p>Then they went into the NJO (New Jedi Order) series which was quite well planned out to start and threw a really fresh slant on stuff by killing off Chewie in the first book. This sends Han off the rails and has a similar effect to the Kylo Ren stuff.</p>
