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All Blacks EOYT 2021

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @sparky because a welsh poster has told us that most of their A players are not available for this game as it's out of the normal window.

    Or are you saying that Wales B is going to be a hard game for our A team?

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    @kirwan How many Wales front line players are in fact missing and how far will the absences actually weaken their team?

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    • bayimportsB bayimports

      I would struggle to find even one example of any AB team go out with the intention of taking it lightly because they think they have got it in the bag. The suggestion itself is laughable, our away record speaks for itself as does the pride the team have in the jersey..

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      @bayimports said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

      I would struggle to find even one example of any AB team go out with the intention of taking it lightly because they think they have got it in the bag. The suggestion itself is laughable, our away record speaks for itself as does the pride the team have in the jersey..

      Remember against Argentina last year, Ireland in Chicago and New South Wales County in 1992. All games that were assumed to be easy beforehand but were anytbing but.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Sam Cane is as realistic as he is resolute. So for the experienced All Blacks flanker, and 2020 captain, his mindset has quickly shifted to the final fortnight of this tour, by which time he hopes to be knocking loudly on the door of test selection.

        Cane, on Tuesday (NZT) from Cardiff, revealed a planned timeline between he and coach Ian Foster that has him regrouping following his return to test footy via a half-hour off the bench in the 104-14 romp over the USA in Washington DC at the weekend.

        By his own admission, Cane is still not ready for a full-blown test against a tier-1 nation, such as this weekend’s clash against Wales at a sold-out Principality Stadium in Cardiff, after a six-month rehabilitation from shoulder surgery to repair a pectoral muscle tear.

        But he hopes the next fortnight will nudge him close enough for the selectors to at least have something to think about ahead of that brutal finish against Ireland in Dublin (November 13) and France in Paris (November 20).

        “I’m not quite in good enough shape or sharp enough to be playing test match footy right now. My mindset is similar to when I first made the squad and knew I was going to get bugger-all game-time – to target each day and try to be a better rugby player by the end of the week, and hopefully I’ll get up to speed reasonably quickly.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300438454/all-blacks-on-tour-sam-cane-rules-himself-out-for-wales-targets-final-fortnight


        Weird, he wants/expects to be selected for the two most difficult tests on this tour, without playing in the two easier tests? He's seriously undercooked already; that won't change if he doesn't play. 🤔

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        @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

        Sam Cane is as realistic as he is resolute. So for the experienced All Blacks flanker, and 2020 captain, his mindset has quickly shifted to the final fortnight of this tour, by which time he hopes to be knocking loudly on the door of test selection.

        Cane, on Tuesday (NZT) from Cardiff, revealed a planned timeline between he and coach Ian Foster that has him regrouping following his return to test footy via a half-hour off the bench in the 104-14 romp over the USA in Washington DC at the weekend.

        By his own admission, Cane is still not ready for a full-blown test against a tier-1 nation, such as this weekend’s clash against Wales at a sold-out Principality Stadium in Cardiff, after a six-month rehabilitation from shoulder surgery to repair a pectoral muscle tear.

        But he hopes the next fortnight will nudge him close enough for the selectors to at least have something to think about ahead of that brutal finish against Ireland in Dublin (November 13) and France in Paris (November 20).

        “I’m not quite in good enough shape or sharp enough to be playing test match footy right now. My mindset is similar to when I first made the squad and knew I was going to get bugger-all game-time – to target each day and try to be a better rugby player by the end of the week, and hopefully I’ll get up to speed reasonably quickly.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300438454/all-blacks-on-tour-sam-cane-rules-himself-out-for-wales-targets-final-fortnight


        Weird, he wants/expects to be selected for the two most difficult tests on this tour, without playing in the two easier tests? He's seriously undercooked already; that won't change if he doesn't play. 🤔

        Sam Cane is not that much better than Papalii. Don't want to see him against France at less than 100%.

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        • bayimportsB bayimports

          I would struggle to find even one example of any AB team go out with the intention of taking it lightly because they think they have got it in the bag. The suggestion itself is laughable, our away record speaks for itself as does the pride the team have in the jersey..

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          @bayimports said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

          I would struggle to find even one example of any AB team go out with the intention of taking it lightly because they think they have got it in the bag. The suggestion itself is laughable, our away record speaks for itself as does the pride the team have in the jersey..

          I don't believe it's ever intentional. But when every team you play saves their best effort to try and topple you, if you aren't quite there mentally you run the risk of losing

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @bayimports said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            I would struggle to find even one example of any AB team go out with the intention of taking it lightly because they think they have got it in the bag. The suggestion itself is laughable, our away record speaks for itself as does the pride the team have in the jersey..

            Remember against Argentina last year, Ireland in Chicago and New South Wales County in 1992. All games that were assumed to be easy beforehand but were anytbing but.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            @bayimports said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            I would struggle to find even one example of any AB team go out with the intention of taking it lightly because they think they have got it in the bag. The suggestion itself is laughable, our away record speaks for itself as does the pride the team have in the jersey..

            Remember against Argentina last year, Ireland in Chicago and New South Wales County in 1992. All games that were assumed to be easy beforehand but were anytbing but.

            We can be beaten regardless, I would still doubt it something they think they have in the bag. Did you really think Ireland was going to be easy in Chicago? I certainly didn't, I doubt the team did either, did we play our best? probably not, but i doubt it was just attributed too mentally not turning up as that also shows a lack of respect.

            As for a dirt tracker team ..maybe I will agree with one there as half the team potentially on the piss as rugby wasn't professional then, but the others are a stretch in my book

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                I guess this means that Weber's injury is bad.

                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1457905789532659712

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                  Great guy to call in, no half back better, but surely he won't be available for the Ireland test after just flying in.

                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1457905789532659712?t=66OKwl7sS9FCHU1s2lTZGA&s=19

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                    I assume Smith's baby has been born as that was his reason for not touring initially.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      I assume Smith's baby has been born as that was his reason for not touring initially.

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                      @bovidae Yes, his son was born about a week ago. He posted a photo on his instagram.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Great guy to call in, no half back better, but surely he won't be available for the Ireland test after just flying in.

                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1457905789532659712?t=66OKwl7sS9FCHU1s2lTZGA&s=19

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        Great guy to call in, no half back better, but surely he won't be available for the Ireland test after just flying in.

                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1457905789532659712?t=66OKwl7sS9FCHU1s2lTZGA&s=19

                        at best maybe bench but yeah i doubt it

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                          I reckon he is good enough to go straight back in, he's that good. I not saying they will do it, but he's certainly capable.

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                            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1457913479122194433

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                              I reckon he is good enough to go straight back in, he's that good. I not saying they will do it, but he's certainly capable.

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                              @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                              I reckon he is good enough to go straight back in, he's that good. I not saying they will do it, but he's certainly capable.

                              If he's not too jetlagged I'd put him straight in. Him and Whitelock are probably the two most important players as their replacements are quite the step down.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                I reckon he is good enough to go straight back in, he's that good. I not saying they will do it, but he's certainly capable.

                                If he's not too jetlagged I'd put him straight in. Him and Whitelock are probably the two most important players as their replacements are quite the step down.

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                                @kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                I reckon he is good enough to go straight back in, he's that good. I not saying they will do it, but he's certainly capable.

                                If he's not too jetlagged I'd put him straight in. Him and Whitelock are probably the two most important players as their replacements are quite the step down.

                                100% if he gets there with enough time to settle in etc

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                                  I see some keyboard warriors claiming preferential treatment for ABs and AS being able to get an MIQ spot to come back...muppets

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    I see some keyboard warriors claiming preferential treatment for ABs and AS being able to get an MIQ spot to come back...muppets

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    I see some keyboard warriors claiming preferential treatment for ABs and AS being able to get an MIQ spot to come back...muppets

                                    well when approximately 9000 yesterday missed out on MIQ spots for the next few months, that's an easy one to jump to

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                      I see some keyboard warriors claiming preferential treatment for ABs and AS being able to get an MIQ spot to come back...muppets

                                      well when approximately 9000 yesterday missed out on MIQ spots for the next few months, that's an easy one to jump to

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                                      @mariner4life yeah....i do kind of get it, we had to flag coming home for xmas as they say theyre booked up past xmas and have been for a while

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        I see some keyboard warriors claiming preferential treatment for ABs and AS being able to get an MIQ spot to come back...muppets

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                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                        I see some keyboard warriors claiming preferential treatment for ABs and AS being able to get an MIQ spot to come back...muppets

                                        Of course they are getting preferential treatment. But individuals competing overseas aren't

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @mariner4life yeah....i do kind of get it, we had to flag coming home for xmas as they say theyre booked up past xmas and have been for a while

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                                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @mariner4life yeah....i do kind of get it, we had to flag coming home for xmas as they say theyre booked up past xmas and have been for a while

                                          My sister and her family almost certainly won't be coming back from Melbourne at Xmas. Unless they basically abolish MIQ for travel to and from Oz shortly.
                                          Down vote.

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