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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    JGP has improved a good bit. I always rated Aki higher than Francis Saili. Lowe has defence issues but he is handy enough on attack.

    Aki could well made the ABs, the other 2 I tend to agree not.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    Happy with the team, only gripes is Akira should really start against a big and fired up Irish pack, and Havili offers nothing from the bench - he either starts or doesn't play for mine.

    Mo'unga has carved up from the bench in the past, that role suits him as he gets to use his jinking running game against tiring defenses. Beauden is definitely in better form and handles the physical stuff a lot better so good to see him start again.

    Very excited about the midfield, that's a much better balance and Rieko could wreck some havoc outside of ALB. Reece has been in good form which allows us to move Rieko in closer which is great.

    Should be cracker of a game, can't wait.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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    @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

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    @crucial They've used the loss of aura story for the Black Ferns now.

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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

    And nowadays they poach as much as we do so they can't really go on about that either...

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    @crucial Not the aura exactly but our energy is draining away

    Rugby

    Timing is right for Ireland as energy drains out of All Blacks’ spring break

    Timing is right for Ireland as energy drains out of All Blacks’ spring break

    The spring tour, as it’s known in New Zealand and Australia, is not quite as it sounds.

    Meanwhile Chris Foy in the Daily Mail reckons other teams fear the AB's but England will be ready when they play in a years time. It seems they've had their jabs against our aura

    For Foster, it provides the welcome scenario of taking on a team, away from home, who do not fear the All Black aura or subconsciously submit to it. England are not beaten before they start, as so many are.
    
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    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @nostrildamus The poll haha.

    I wasn't saying anything about how many peaks, or how high their peaks, early in the season were. Just that both were better earlier in the season than in the last few games.

    fair enough on your second point.
    But don't pour scorn on the poll, it is TSF polling science!

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    @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    "TJ is pretty happy with his form"

    Well that sounds like the height of objectivity. Not sure we need coaches and selectors, just ask the players to pick themselves each week.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

    "Irish Poach All Blacks Haka Aura".
    There's a potential headline to get the ball rolling.

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    Very wandering article, read like he was paid per word to just make column inches.

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    Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

    Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

    On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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    I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

    I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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    @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

    Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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    @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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    @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

    “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

    C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

    I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

    Yeah im a bit the same , that was a very special team and its funny how you take it for granted until its gone , its like when your favourite dog dies and you try and get another one to replace him but its not quite the same

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

    I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

    Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

    But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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    @jc said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

    “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

    C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

    Yeah I don't think he'd print it out.

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