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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    Happy with the team, only gripes is Akira should really start against a big and fired up Irish pack, and Havili offers nothing from the bench - he either starts or doesn't play for mine.

    Mo'unga has carved up from the bench in the past, that role suits him as he gets to use his jinking running game against tiring defenses. Beauden is definitely in better form and handles the physical stuff a lot better so good to see him start again.

    Very excited about the midfield, that's a much better balance and Rieko could wreck some havoc outside of ALB. Reece has been in good form which allows us to move Rieko in closer which is great.

    Should be cracker of a game, can't wait.

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      #190

      Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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        @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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          @crucial They've used the loss of aura story for the Black Ferns now.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

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            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

            @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

            And nowadays they poach as much as we do so they can't really go on about that either...

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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              @crucial Not the aura exactly but our energy is draining away

              https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/autumn-internationals/timing-is-right-for-ireland-as-energy-drains-out-of-all-blacks-spring-break-41026164.html

              Meanwhile Chris Foy in the Daily Mail reckons other teams fear the AB's but England will be ready when they play in a years time. It seems they've had their jabs against our aura

              For Foster, it provides the welcome scenario of taking on a team, away from home, who do not fear the All Black aura or subconsciously submit to it. England are not beaten before they start, as so many are.
              
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                @nostrildamus The poll haha.

                I wasn't saying anything about how many peaks, or how high their peaks, early in the season were. Just that both were better earlier in the season than in the last few games.

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                @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @nostrildamus The poll haha.

                I wasn't saying anything about how many peaks, or how high their peaks, early in the season were. Just that both were better earlier in the season than in the last few games.

                fair enough on your second point.
                But don't pour scorn on the poll, it is TSF polling science!

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                • TimT Tim

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300450560/all-blacks-say-it-would-be-unrealistic-to-expect-aaron-smith-to-play-ireland

                  "Right now we have three nines in hunt for this weekend's start,'' Plumtree said. "Aaron is only arriving Wednesday, he doesn't know what the plan is. So it's pretty unrealistic to think that Aaron is going to be playing at the weekend.''

                  Weber had to leave the field in the first half of the 47-9 win over Italy in Rome last weekend after suffering a nasty blow to the nose, and is still working through World Rugby's head injury assessment protocols.

                  Christie, who replaced Weber, also has a sore neck but Plumtree said he was still able to be involved in a practice on Tuesday and should be available for selection.

                  "TJ is pretty happy with his form. All of them are going pretty well,'' Plumtree added. "Obviously Brad has got these HIA protocols that he is going through this week, and Finlay has a little bit of an issue with his neck.

                  "But he trained today and (we) are expecting him to be fit for the weekend.''

                  Other than tighthead prop Angus Ta'avao, who is still recovering from an elbow injury, Plumtree said the All Blacks had no other injuries.

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                  @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  "TJ is pretty happy with his form"

                  Well that sounds like the height of objectivity. Not sure we need coaches and selectors, just ask the players to pick themselves each week.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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                    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

                    "Irish Poach All Blacks Haka Aura".
                    There's a potential headline to get the ball rolling.

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      @crucial Not the aura exactly but our energy is draining away

                      https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/autumn-internationals/timing-is-right-for-ireland-as-energy-drains-out-of-all-blacks-spring-break-41026164.html

                      Meanwhile Chris Foy in the Daily Mail reckons other teams fear the AB's but England will be ready when they play in a years time. It seems they've had their jabs against our aura

                      For Foster, it provides the welcome scenario of taking on a team, away from home, who do not fear the All Black aura or subconsciously submit to it. England are not beaten before they start, as so many are.
                      
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                      @dogmeat said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                      Very wandering article, read like he was paid per word to just make column inches.

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                        Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                        Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                        On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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                          I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                          I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                            Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                            On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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                            @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                            Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                              Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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                              @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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                                @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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                                @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                                “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                                C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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                                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                  I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                                  I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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                                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                                  I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                                  Yeah im a bit the same , that was a very special team and its funny how you take it for granted until its gone , its like when your favourite dog dies and you try and get another one to replace him but its not quite the same

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                                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                      I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                                      I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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                                      @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                                      I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                                      Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                                      But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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                                        @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                                        “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                                        C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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                                        @jc said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                                        “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                                        C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

                                        Yeah I don't think he'd print it out.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                                          I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                                          Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                                          But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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                                          @no-quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                                          I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                                          Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                                          But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

                                          Put Jordie at 12 then we'll talk!

                                          Actually it has been great to see Jordie become genuinely world-class this year. Always knew he had it in him... I never doubted it for a second...

                                          I still ❤ BB, but I'm really disappointed he's regressed since 2016. There have been flashes of brilliance, but he's not been the same player since. But with Jordie kicking he should definitely be the starting 10 and let's hope for a couple of blinders in the coming games.

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