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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • TimT Tim

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300450560/all-blacks-say-it-would-be-unrealistic-to-expect-aaron-smith-to-play-ireland

    "Right now we have three nines in hunt for this weekend's start,'' Plumtree said. "Aaron is only arriving Wednesday, he doesn't know what the plan is. So it's pretty unrealistic to think that Aaron is going to be playing at the weekend.''

    Weber had to leave the field in the first half of the 47-9 win over Italy in Rome last weekend after suffering a nasty blow to the nose, and is still working through World Rugby's head injury assessment protocols.

    Christie, who replaced Weber, also has a sore neck but Plumtree said he was still able to be involved in a practice on Tuesday and should be available for selection.

    "TJ is pretty happy with his form. All of them are going pretty well,'' Plumtree added. "Obviously Brad has got these HIA protocols that he is going through this week, and Finlay has a little bit of an issue with his neck.

    "But he trained today and (we) are expecting him to be fit for the weekend.''

    Other than tighthead prop Angus Ta'avao, who is still recovering from an elbow injury, Plumtree said the All Blacks had no other injuries.

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    @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    "TJ is pretty happy with his form"

    Well that sounds like the height of objectivity. Not sure we need coaches and selectors, just ask the players to pick themselves each week.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

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      @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

      "Irish Poach All Blacks Haka Aura".
      There's a potential headline to get the ball rolling.

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        @crucial Not the aura exactly but our energy is draining away

        https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/autumn-internationals/timing-is-right-for-ireland-as-energy-drains-out-of-all-blacks-spring-break-41026164.html

        Meanwhile Chris Foy in the Daily Mail reckons other teams fear the AB's but England will be ready when they play in a years time. It seems they've had their jabs against our aura

        For Foster, it provides the welcome scenario of taking on a team, away from home, who do not fear the All Black aura or subconsciously submit to it. England are not beaten before they start, as so many are.
        
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        @dogmeat said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        Very wandering article, read like he was paid per word to just make column inches.

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          Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

          Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

          On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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            I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

            I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

              Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

              On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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              @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

              Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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                @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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                  @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                  “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                  C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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                  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                    I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                    I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                    I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                    Yeah im a bit the same , that was a very special team and its funny how you take it for granted until its gone , its like when your favourite dog dies and you try and get another one to replace him but its not quite the same

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                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                        I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                        I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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                        @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                        I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                        Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                        But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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                        • JCJ JC

                          @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                          “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                          C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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                          @jc said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                          “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                          C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

                          Yeah I don't think he'd print it out.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                            I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                            Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                            But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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                            @no-quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                            I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                            Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                            But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

                            Put Jordie at 12 then we'll talk!

                            Actually it has been great to see Jordie become genuinely world-class this year. Always knew he had it in him... I never doubted it for a second...

                            I still ❤ BB, but I'm really disappointed he's regressed since 2016. There have been flashes of brilliance, but he's not been the same player since. But with Jordie kicking he should definitely be the starting 10 and let's hope for a couple of blinders in the coming games.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                              Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                              On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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                              @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                              He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

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                                @bones
                                You meant fullback, did you ?

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                                  @bones
                                  You meant fullback, did you ?

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                                  @cgrant said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  @bones
                                  You meant fullback, did you ?

                                  Nah

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                    He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

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                                    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                    He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                    Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

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                                      @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                      He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                      Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

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                                      @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                      He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                      Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                      That's how I like my hookers.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        That's the best centre pairing IMO, so pleased to see that. Also good to see them reward BB with the ten jersey, as I said last week now that the goalkicking is handled by JB they can just pick the best ten on form. Right now that's comfortably BB, and the backs outside of him will enjoy the extra space.

                                        It was also interesting to see them previously trying RM at fullback too.

                                        I'd swap the halfbacks on form as well, but perhaps TJ's lack of composure recently counts against him being the bench player.

                                        As for the forwards, if you pick Coles IMO you need to start him, ST has provided real impact from the bench and would have kept that.

                                        For all the talk from Plummer about wanting to dominate in the forwards, we are picking a mobile pack over a ball running, physical pack, starting at eight. And obviously, I think Akira and Blackadder should be switched but if they give Akira a good 30mins we can get the impact we'll need from his defence.

                                        So I worry out plan is to go wide too early still, we look a better side when we flood the breakdown and do a few pick and goes before using the pace out wide. We've not picked the team to play that way though.

                                        Really pleased to see Reece start too.

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                                        @kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        For all the talk from Plummer about wanting to dominate in the forwards, we are picking a mobile pack over a ball running, physical pack, starting at eight. And obviously, I think Akira and Blackadder should be switched but if they give Akira a good 30mins we can get the impact we'll need from his defence.
                                        So I worry out plan is to go wide too early still, we look a better side when we flood the breakdown and do a few pick and goes before using the pace out wide. We've not picked the team to play that way though.

                                        Having given this some thought, I can't see the tight five doing enough for this mobile loose forward trio. Sure they all work harder than an ugly stripper, but where's the physical impact to dominate collisions?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                          He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                          Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                          That's how I like my hookers.

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                                          @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                          He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                          Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                          That's how I like my hookers.

                                          You missed cheap

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