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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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    Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

    Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

    On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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      I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

      I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

        Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

        On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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        @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

        Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

          Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

          Strange isn't it? Aki was never even a regular starter for the Chiefs.

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          @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @bovidae I see him as still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.

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            @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

            “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

            C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

              I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

              I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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              @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

              I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

              Yeah im a bit the same , that was a very special team and its funny how you take it for granted until its gone , its like when your favourite dog dies and you try and get another one to replace him but its not quite the same

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                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                  I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                  I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

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                  @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                  I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                  Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                  But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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                    @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                    “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                    C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

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                    @jc said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    @antipodean Farrell is going to pin that up on the door of the Ireland Changing Room:

                    “Antipodean off of the knowledgable and influential The Silver Fern says he sees Bundee Aki is still a limited player who does his core role well for Ireland.”

                    C’mon lads, you know that’s only half true.

                    Yeah I don't think he'd print it out.

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                      I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                      I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                      Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                      But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

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                      @no-quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                      I know this is the best we've got available and that we've been ridiculously spoilt over the past 2 decades or so but I just find that team so underwhelming.

                      I guess I'm just still living in 2015.....

                      Beauden AND Jordie starting and you are underwhelmed???

                      But yes, man we were spoilt with genuine GOATs littered throughout the team, we're definitely back in the pack now.

                      Put Jordie at 12 then we'll talk!

                      Actually it has been great to see Jordie become genuinely world-class this year. Always knew he had it in him... I never doubted it for a second...

                      I still ❤ BB, but I'm really disappointed he's regressed since 2016. There have been flashes of brilliance, but he's not been the same player since. But with Jordie kicking he should definitely be the starting 10 and let's hope for a couple of blinders in the coming games.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        Aki's rep has gotten better the longer he's been away from NZ. I never thought he was AB material when he was with the Chiefs.

                        Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                        On the team I don't have too many issues with it, still prefer Rieko on the wing though, don't mind Akira on the bench if he's brought on earlier (hopefully the stats men don't do a Nisbett this week), wouldn't have minded seeing Ofa there.

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                        @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                        He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                          Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                          He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

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                          @bones
                          You meant fullback, did you ?

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                            @bones
                            You meant fullback, did you ?

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                            @cgrant said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            @bones
                            You meant fullback, did you ?

                            Nah

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                              He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

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                              @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                              He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                              Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

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                                @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

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                                @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                That's how I like my hookers.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  That's the best centre pairing IMO, so pleased to see that. Also good to see them reward BB with the ten jersey, as I said last week now that the goalkicking is handled by JB they can just pick the best ten on form. Right now that's comfortably BB, and the backs outside of him will enjoy the extra space.

                                  It was also interesting to see them previously trying RM at fullback too.

                                  I'd swap the halfbacks on form as well, but perhaps TJ's lack of composure recently counts against him being the bench player.

                                  As for the forwards, if you pick Coles IMO you need to start him, ST has provided real impact from the bench and would have kept that.

                                  For all the talk from Plummer about wanting to dominate in the forwards, we are picking a mobile pack over a ball running, physical pack, starting at eight. And obviously, I think Akira and Blackadder should be switched but if they give Akira a good 30mins we can get the impact we'll need from his defence.

                                  So I worry out plan is to go wide too early still, we look a better side when we flood the breakdown and do a few pick and goes before using the pace out wide. We've not picked the team to play that way though.

                                  Really pleased to see Reece start too.

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                                  @kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  For all the talk from Plummer about wanting to dominate in the forwards, we are picking a mobile pack over a ball running, physical pack, starting at eight. And obviously, I think Akira and Blackadder should be switched but if they give Akira a good 30mins we can get the impact we'll need from his defence.
                                  So I worry out plan is to go wide too early still, we look a better side when we flood the breakdown and do a few pick and goes before using the pace out wide. We've not picked the team to play that way though.

                                  Having given this some thought, I can't see the tight five doing enough for this mobile loose forward trio. Sure they all work harder than an ugly stripper, but where's the physical impact to dominate collisions?

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                    He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                    Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                    That's how I like my hookers.

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                                    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                    He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                    Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                    That's how I like my hookers.

                                    You missed cheap

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                                      @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      Lowe would have run in lots of tries against some of the bunny teams if he was ever selected by the ABs.

                                      He's kind of Jordan lite, just not the pace. I reckon he would have made a gun halfback.

                                      Lowe could’ve made a gun league hooker. Quick, rugged and high workrate.

                                      That's how I like my hookers.

                                      You missed cheap

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                                      @machpants I don't believe I did. Just ask the chiefs.

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                                        Bladder more physical than Akira: suggest Fozzie tries tackling each of them.

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                                          Bladder more physical than Akira: suggest Fozzie tries tackling each of them.

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                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          Bladder more physical than Akira: suggest Fozzie tries tackling each of them.

                                          Wouldn't think he would need too, just work off the KPIs etc, pretty straight forward to see who is more physical in a game!

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