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All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

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    @no-quarter isn’t that the truth.

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      We can close down the aura thread.

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      • A akan004

        The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

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        • A akan004

          The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

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          @akan004 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

          The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

          Badly selected - and the use of the subs is criminal.

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            These two losses probably a reality check where we are really at

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

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              @no-quarter said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

              So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

              From static ball and with flat footed players. It's completely idiotic.

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              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

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                So why was Cane not subbed?

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                • TimT Tim

                  As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.

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                  @tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                  As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.

                  That 20mins was the main positive

                  It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
                  Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    37-25 to France and really they were easily the better side.
                    The ABs...apart from some shocking individual plays (worst 3 ABs would be an interesting poll) ... overall our combos have got WORSE as the season wore on...

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                    I think DH at 12 was a failure. Looked good against weaker sides but not at serious test level.
                    RM is still a head scratcher. R Ioane was really good, I guess one of two little shining features (the other, ST, again).
                    We need to better use our wings.
                    Our tight forwards I thought overall were ok-ish (helped by ST) but generally lack spark (and Nepo was Nepo again). Our loosies-not their finest hour. Thought Cane won some crucial turnovers only to be overlooked by Wayne Barnes giving a penalty elsewhere.
                    Turns out when JB and Smith are not in peak form they can't paper over the cracks.

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                    • TordahT Tordah

                      How good was Taukei'aho, easily the best thing to come out of this season. A annus horriblis for Foster. Or horrible anus for Fister.

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                        Havili and Mo'unga really did shit the bed in that 2nd 40

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                          Is there another Ioane brother about the same size as Reiko who can play centre/wing ? That would solve a few problems.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                            Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

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                            @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                            On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                            Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

                            Low benchmark.

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                              Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

                              Low benchmark.

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                              Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

                              Low benchmark.

                              Indeed.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

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                                @no-quarter said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

                                They did look a bit camenbert soft when we drove it up the middle.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.

                                  That 20mins was the main positive

                                  It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
                                  Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game.

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                                  @duluth said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  @tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.

                                  That 20mins was the main positive

                                  It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
                                  Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game.

                                  We need power in the front row too.

                                  Our biggest issue is that we don't have strong 10s right now and need to reevaluate our kicking game entirely.

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                                    Reminder that there are people who want Foster to stay as head coach.

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                                      Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

                                      Low benchmark.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                                      Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

                                      Low benchmark.

                                      Can we bench Marshall? He's a hypocritical twat. Need to do this, need to do that... all things he never did.

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                                        Well played Les Bleus. At least Waikato won.

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          We can close down the aura thread.

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                                          @billy-tell said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          We can close down the aura thread.

                                          No one's going to talk about aura for 20 years.

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