All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour
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As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.
@tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.
That 20mins was the main positive
It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game. -
37-25 to France and really they were easily the better side.
The ABs...apart from some shocking individual plays (worst 3 ABs would be an interesting poll) ... overall our combos have got WORSE as the season wore on...I think DH at 12 was a failure. Looked good against weaker sides but not at serious test level.
RM is still a head scratcher. R Ioane was really good, I guess one of two little shining features (the other, ST, again).
We need to better use our wings.
Our tight forwards I thought overall were ok-ish (helped by ST) but generally lack spark (and Nepo was Nepo again). Our loosies-not their finest hour. Thought Cane won some crucial turnovers only to be overlooked by Wayne Barnes giving a penalty elsewhere.
Turns out when JB and Smith are not in peak form they can't paper over the cracks. -
How good was Taukei'aho, easily the best thing to come out of this season. A annus horriblis for Foster. Or horrible anus for Fister.
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Havili and Mo'unga really did shit the bed in that 2nd 40
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On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.
Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.
@mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.
Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.
Low benchmark.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.
Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.
Low benchmark.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.
Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.
Low benchmark.
Indeed.
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So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.
They did look a bit camenbert soft when we drove it up the middle.
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@tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.
That 20mins was the main positive
It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game.@duluth said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.
That 20mins was the main positive
It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game.We need power in the front row too.
Our biggest issue is that we don't have strong 10s right now and need to reevaluate our kicking game entirely.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.
Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.
Low benchmark.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.
Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.
Low benchmark.
Can we bench Marshall? He's a hypocritical twat. Need to do this, need to do that... all things he never did.
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We can close down the aura thread.
@billy-tell said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
We can close down the aura thread.
No one's going to talk about aura for 20 years.
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In the post match on field interview Sam Whitelock listens patiently and politely to the extended speeches offered by the reporter doing 90% of the talking!!!
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We also need to stop pretending that the current version Super Rugby is producing decent international level tight forwards. Or that Brodie is still “BBBR”, he hasn’t been at quite that level since 2016, and has barely been sighted in Super Rugby since about the 2017 season.
@donsteppa said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
We also need to stop pretending that the current version Super Rugby is producing decent international level tight forwards. Or that Brodie is still “BBBR”, he hasn’t been at quite that level since 2016, and has barely been sighted in Super Rugby since about the 2017 season.
He is not that Brodie but he is still one of the best we have, no?
Having said that, I was watching Strange in the Ta$man Waikato highlights thinking, he looks like quite an athletic lock (in a good way)... -
The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.
@akan004 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.
No amount of coaching can fix brain farts.
Contrast the ability of McCaw's men to wrest a victorious result from this squad. We have a squad that has Havili, Mo'unga and Bridge. We're carrying a loose forward spot for Ardie "highlights" Savea. Players out of form are ushered back into the All Blacks following a sojourn in Japan in TJP and BBBR.
Sam saying we need to learn how to play France in France? WTF
Foster's coaching group is too conservative and too loyal.
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@duluth said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
As with the first test against SA, its the 3rd quarter when we use our big carriers up the middle that we look good.
That 20mins was the main positive
It showed the tactics we need to use next year. We have forwards that can get a roll on around the fringes. It's about using them correctly
Taukei’aho, Akira, Savea etc were excellent during that period. They got us back into the game.We need power in the front row too.
Our biggest issue is that we don't have strong 10s right now and need to reevaluate our kicking game entirely.
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Bloody great test, French deserved to win, they had our pack struggling, and DuPont was immense !
Shrewd move though fellas, when was last time we lost 3 tests in a year and 2 in a row?
2009 and we won WC 2 years later , have we set it up??:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
