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Foster, Robertson, Rennie etc

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    Machpants
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    I really shouldn't read or watch about foster, it just makes me angry

    From the breakdown "“You've got to go through some of these lessons sometimes as an All Black team,” he said. “It’s not like this is a fully established [team] with experience right across the board."

    Fuck sake, look at the ages and experience of the French versus the ABs, our team is fucking old with heaps of caps and 30+ years. A lot of the French are under 25

    Accountable my arse, he's responsible but won't be held to account

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      I really shouldn't read or watch about foster, it just makes me angry

      From the breakdown "“You've got to go through some of these lessons sometimes as an All Black team,” he said. “It’s not like this is a fully established [team] with experience right across the board."

      Fuck sake, look at the ages and experience of the French versus the ABs, our team is fucking old with heaps of caps and 30+ years. A lot of the French are under 25

      Accountable my arse, he's responsible but won't be held to account

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      Kiwiwomble
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      @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

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        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

        @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

        And TJP?

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          @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

          @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

          And TJP?

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

          @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

          @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

          And TJP?

          78...but a rookie...everyone know sir richie was only good for the last 20 odd tests of his 148....

          edit: please tell you now im joking, people with even +20 tests should have more composure

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

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            @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

            @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

            way to calm him down, not!

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

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              canefan
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              @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

              @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

              Some very good past ABs would call that a career!

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              • canefanC canefan

                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                @machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....

                Some very good past ABs would call that a career!

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                Kiwiwomble
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                @canefan thats what i was getting at but the sarcasm seems to have been too subtle

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @canefan said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  Oh god, we have a mad man at the wheel of the big black bus

                  https://stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300460219/defiant-ian-foster-assesses-the-all-blacks-campaign-weve-made-significant-growth

                  I've no idea what parts of the game we've made significant growth in. Admittedly I'm not a sought after international coach with an impeccable pedigree, but from my ignorant perspective nothing has improved.

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                  @antipodean said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                  I've no idea what parts of the game we've made significant growth in. Admittedly I'm not a sought after international coach with an impeccable pedigree, but from my ignorant perspective nothing has improved.

                  Losses as a percentage of annual Tests?

                  Average margin versus Wallabies?

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                    @antipodean said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    I've no idea what parts of the game we've made significant growth in. Admittedly I'm not a sought after international coach with an impeccable pedigree, but from my ignorant perspective nothing has improved.

                    Losses as a percentage of annual Tests?

                    Average margin versus Wallabies?

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                    @nta said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                    Average margin versus Wallabies?

                    I imagine this one would be a bit of a relief after 2 Draws in 2020. #justsaying

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                      Foster seems to be seeing a different game to the one the average punter is. He is seeing certain growth, we are seeing stagnation. He is seeing small margins where the game could of been won, we are seeing a team thoroughly beaten. He is seeing player development, we are seeing good players turning to shite, etc. We aren't seeing any innovation, a gameplan or anything much else, just the same old thing for the last 2 years.
                      The worrying sign is that he doesn't verbalize any of the problems we see right in front of our faces.

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                        To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                        The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                        Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                        so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                          The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                          Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                          so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

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                          @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                          To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                          The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                          Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                          so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

                          Thanks Ian.

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                            @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                            To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                            The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                            Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                            so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

                            Thanks Ian.

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                            @crucial said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                            @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                            To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                            The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                            Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                            so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

                            Thanks Ian.

                            nah, he has a point. Despite us being pants, we could have burgled a few wins from the losses. It wouldn't represent the game, but it would be a great escape. Kinda like England 2019 -- we weren't in that game, but had a chance to actually snatch it.

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                              @crucial said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                              @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                              To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                              The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                              Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                              so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

                              Thanks Ian.

                              nah, he has a point. Despite us being pants, we could have burgled a few wins from the losses. It wouldn't represent the game, but it would be a great escape. Kinda like England 2019 -- we weren't in that game, but had a chance to actually snatch it.

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                              Kiwiwomble
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                              @nzzp would that be enough though?

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @nzzp would that be enough though?

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                                mariner4life
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                                @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                @nzzp would that be enough though?

                                what? winning? holy shit maybe it right what everyone says about us

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                                  The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                                  Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                                  so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

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                                  @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                  To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                                  24-6 down at halftime is the issue. It's all well and good talking about the 3rd quarter fightback but 24-6 down at halftime is unacceptable and ultimately costs you the match as the opposition are going to get momentum in the second half and by being 24-6 down you are leaving no room for error and no able to apply scoreboard pressure as were so far back were never able to get in front.

                                  There's been a lot of chat about the intercept and the Mounga missed tackle but how about the shitshow that was the first 40?

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.

                                    The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.

                                    Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)

                                    so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.

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                                    Old Samurai Jack
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                                    @mariner4life ABs were still well beaten by better sides with superior game plans regardless of the "ifs" and "buts". On the other hand, if Ireland had taken all its chances....

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      There are often fine margins with winning and losing. McCaw was lucky not to lose his first test as captain against Wales in 2004. Imagine what the media and supporters would have been like then.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @nzzp would that be enough though?

                                        what? winning? holy shit maybe it right what everyone says about us

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                                        Kiwiwomble
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                                        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:

                                        @nzzp would that be enough though?

                                        what? winning? holy shit maybe it right what everyone says about us

                                        dont get me wrong, not saying i wouldn't taken it, im just asking if that would have been enough to think Fozzie was doing a good job? on paper do we think the current team is only a whisker above some of these teams?

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                                          We were well beaten on the field. Dominated at times. That is a major concern

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