Electric Vehicles
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Mustang E-Mach.
Worst by a country mile. Absolutely terrible car.
Ok, I didn’t drive it. Salesman wasn’t there when I turned up for my booking … and the branch head told me they didn’t have one anyway ….
Think Ford Guildford …. Thing again
Hold on. Ford sucks or the car sucks? Did you actually see one?
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Mustang E-Mach.
Worst by a country mile. Absolutely terrible car.
Ok, I didn’t drive it. Salesman wasn’t there when I turned up for my booking … and the branch head told me they didn’t have one anyway ….
Think Ford Guildford …. Thing again
Hold on. Ford sucks or the car sucks? Did you actually see one?
3pm Thursday I arranged to meet Levi (salesman) to drive the E Mach.
I turned up at 3pm. Levi not there. So I asked for somebody else to help. The other person said they didn’t have an e Mach to drive ….
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So the wife wants an EV. Happy to get something smaller to complement the 7 seater SUV for family trips, so range not a huge issue.
So little to choose from in Oz.
Seems to be the MG only under 50k, the Leaf and the IONIC under 60k, the Mona, Nero or MX30 to 75k then the Tesla S, Merc, Volvo all over 80k
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
So the wife wants an EV. Happy to get something smaller to complement the 7 seater SUV for family trips, so range not a huge issue.
So little to choose from in Oz.
Seems to be the MG only under 50k, the Leaf and the IONIC under 60k, the Mona, Nero or MX30 to 75k then the Tesla S, Merc, Volvo all over 80k
I'm also in the same position, I am waiting for the BYD Yuan Plus which is advertised as being under 40k AUD and is very similar to a Mazda CX5. Appears the long range has 510km which is nice. I think the price and specs etc are up on the website next month. Not many reviews yet or info but here is a video in chinese showing it.
And this much cheaper small car which is likely to be under 35k
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
So the wife wants an EV. Happy to get something smaller to complement the 7 seater SUV for family trips, so range not a huge issue.
So little to choose from in Oz.
Seems to be the MG only under 50k, the Leaf and the IONIC under 60k, the Mona, Nero or MX30 to 75k then the Tesla S, Merc, Volvo all over 80k
New electric vehicles due in Australia in 2022
Australians will soon have new electric models to choose from as car makers respond to growing demand.
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@antipodean cheers for that. Still looks like not much on offer until H2 2022? And the lack of a 2nd hand market keeps the prices sky high
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Second hand car market is interesting right now - a bloke at work bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee private sale 3 years ago and could recover his money today in a private sale (obviously not the repair costs
because Jeep).I'm eyeing off whether I just take the plunge and spend $80K on a Volvo XC40 Recharge or wait. The X-Trail isn't going to change much in value between now and then...
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
Second hand car market is interesting right now - a bloke at work bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee private sale 3 years ago and could recover his money today in a private sale (obviously not the repair costs
because Jeep).I'm eyeing off whether I just take the plunge and spend $80K on a Volvo XC40 Recharge or wait. The X-Trail isn't going to change much in value between now and then...
I looked at that last night, it's a nice looking ride. Have you driven it?
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@voodoo nah - nearest Volvo is Parramatta.
Realistically, I'd have to convince Mrs TA to drop $80K on a vehicle that doesn't have the range or offroad cred of my X-Trail. She would love the interior tho.
My fallback plan is to wait until her Mum's dementia finally closes that chapter, then go into Nissan and try to score a discount on a Leaf ($55k) + Ariya ($75k).
It would be good to go all-EV at the same time, but we've still got a mortgage apparently and should be paying that off faster
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
Second hand car market is interesting right now - a bloke at work bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee private sale 3 years ago and could recover his money today in a private sale (obviously not the repair costs
because Jeep).I'm eyeing off whether I just take the plunge and spend $80K on a Volvo XC40 Recharge or wait. The X-Trail isn't going to change much in value between now and then...
I’m guessing you haven’t driven one yet. It’s just a little bit nicer than a Leaf. Even at 80k you’re getting a lot of car for your money IMO.
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@voodoo nah - nearest Volvo is Parramatta.
Realistically, I'd have to convince Mrs TA to drop $80K on a vehicle that doesn't have the range or offroad cred of my X-Trail. She would love the interior tho.
All joking aside, does the X-Trail have any off road cred? Not the first thing that jumps in my head when thinking of an x-trail.
My fallback plan is to wait until her Mum's dementia finally closes that chapter, then go into Nissan and try to score a discount on a Leaf ($55k) + Ariya ($75k).
Discounts on electric cars .... optimistic! To be straight with you though mate, a fallback plan of awaiting a parents passing is never a good idea.
It would be good to go all-EV at the same time, but we've still got a mortgage apparently and should be paying that off faster
Nah ... money's cheap!!
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
All joking aside, does the X-Trail have any off road cred? Not the first thing that jumps in my head when thinking of an x-trail.
Nah probably not, but it depends what you're after and how good a driver you are
Mine is the last of the boxy ones - though I understand the powertrain and transmission is largely unchanged since 2012.
It won't crawl rocks in part because it doesn't have low range. Fitting winches and recovery gear isn't generally on the cards because it doesn't have a full chassis - would just weight it down, anyway. Deep ruts are an issue due to relatively low clearance, but that is true of any stock 4WD at a point.
On the plus side, it is lighter and a bit smaller than the "big" 4WDs, so the power/weight ratio is good as a result and you can sit out of the ruts created by a Land Cruiser or Patrol. I gave mine a bit of a lift (50mm to take it to 300mm) with new springs and shocks - besides that and the nudge bar with LED lights it is otherwise stock - and have navigated water over the axles as well as decent mud and some of the rough dirt roads we get here. That was on highway tyres. I've had AT and hybrid rubber on it which were good, but couldn't really justify it for the amount of dirt I drive - they wear out quickly in the 'burbs.
Next week is beach driving but it'll all be on the flat, not dunes so much. Just let the tyres down to ~20psi and don't make too many sharp turns.
I know guys who have modified their X-Trails and drive almost everywhere the big boys go, relying on lighter weight to get them through.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that it has pretty good angles of approach and departure so you can get yourself into trouble quite easily in either direction. Adding the nudge bar actually reduced that a bit, and I've whacked it on river stones a few times but probably saved the radiator a bit of damage as a result.
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
a fallback plan of awaiting a parents passing is never a good idea.
Now saying it'll be this year, but it's about as good a plan as anything else.
Quite frankly after years of watching the dementia progress, to the point where there is no speech or movement and limited awareness, we're coming due.
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@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
Second hand car market is interesting right now - a bloke at work bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee private sale 3 years ago and could recover his money today in a private sale (obviously not the repair costs
because Jeep).I'm eyeing off whether I just take the plunge and spend $80K on a Volvo XC40 Recharge or wait. The X-Trail isn't going to change much in value between now and then...
I’m guessing you haven’t driven one yet. It’s just a little bit nicer than a Leaf. Even at 80k you’re getting a lot of car for your money IMO.
You've driven the Volvo? Thoughts?
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@voodoo Yep. I took out an XC60 and an XC40 and much preferred the smaller one. I also took out a petrol XC40 T5 for comparison and despite the higher price I’d still have chosen the hybrid.
Pros were: Really nice interior. Really nice. Incredibly comfortable seats and high quality materials. The leather on the seats was lovely. Good handling. Looked brilliant in metallic black with black interior and privacy glass.
Cons: Not that quick, but OK. It was only the front wheel drive version, I don’t think the AWD version is out here yet but the dealer said at the time it was very fast. All Volvos are apparently limited to 160km/h top speed now for what that’s worth. Pretty pricy, nearly $100k here in NZ with the various packages, bearing in mind the demonstrator was loaded up with everything. That’s it really, no more cons.
In the end I went a bit further upmarket but if I was going for a PHEV in that range that’s the one I’d have I think.
