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I started watching Reacher due to the thread hype. I never had an issue with Cruise as Reacher because I hadn't read a book before seeing the first movie. I thought the first movie was good, the second ok, I wouldn't have minded if they'd have made more of them.
Funnily enough I had a bit of an issue with the new guy for the first 20 odd minutes due to his role as a bit of an idiot on Blue Mountain State.
First ep was interesting enough that I'll carry on.
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@nepia I think im a bit similar, hadn't read the books and so i was only influenced by all the news at the time, vanity project etc, not right for the role...but i didn;t mind the actual movies, i even remember thinking a supposed giant of a man wouldn't exactly blend in whilst doing all this investigation
another example of what ive said before, if they had a good script why not change the names etc and say it was original? are the movies closely based of books and so it would have been obvious?
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Exactly. Good films, just not Reacher. Not just the size thing, also didn’t get anywhere near portraying the sense of the man.
Still entertaining, but…
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In many respects Cruise's version was better. Not true to the character but a more believable one.
I believe that even Child says that Reacher is a representation of force. A 'what would happen if this unstoppable physical and mental specimen had no hesitancy to just do what seemed right'
Cruise dialled that back to your standard action hero while this series (which I also enjoy) paints Reacher as some kind of Asperger giant.
The bit that always annoys me about the character is that he swings from being empathetic to having no feelings in the blink of an eye. The books take more time to make that work (until the recent ones anyway).
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@catogrande said in TV Serieseseses:
Exactly. Good films, just not Reacher. Not just the size thing, also didn’t get anywhere near portraying the sense of the man.
Still entertaining, but…
They'd have been bloody good movies on their own (especially the first one) without invoking comparisons with the literary character.
Also Cruise is a much better actor.
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@antipodean might be going out on a limb...cruise might come across little weird in real life....But i have to say i enjoy his films more often than not, edge of tomorrow is one of those films i will often sit and watch if i come across it on TV
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@bovidae said in TV Serieseseses:
Ozark
Finished watching Pt 1 of S4, so only 7 more episodes to go whenever Pt 2 airs. This is one of the best Netflix shows in recent years. Julia Garner is just brilliant as Ruth.
Garner was truly exceptional in last episode. Another Emmy beckons.
I SO want Wendy to come a cropper!
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@kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@antipodean might be going out on a limb...cruise might come a little weird in real life....But i have to say i enjoy his films more often than not, edge of tomorrow is one of those films i will often sit and watch if i come across it on TV
I used to disparage Cruise until I saw him in Collateral. Now I consider him among the best actors of his generation.
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@antipodean don't know if id go that far personally but i definitely wouldn't argue, not a crazy stance to take
edit: @antipodean actually... you've made me think about it and my main thought was a lot of his roles are very similar action guys...but then i remembered things like rock of ages and tropic thunder.....you might be right
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@crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
In many respects Cruise's version was better. Not true to the character but a more believable one.
I believe that even Child says that Reacher is a representation of force. A 'what would happen if this unstoppable physical and mental specimen had no hesitancy to just do what seemed right'
Cruise dialled that back to your standard action hero while this series (which I also enjoy) paints Reacher as some kind of Asperger giant.
The bit that always annoys me about the character is that he swings from being empathetic to having no feelings in the blink of an eye. The books take more time to make that work (until the recent ones anyway).
The Cruise version just took the determined, smart, fighting aspects and kept away from his 'weirdness'.I like Cruise as an actor and enjoyed the movies independently but having read the books about Reacher, I didnt feel he played the character either.
He played his own version well (and also how he felt it would work with audiences) and again i enjoyed it as an action movie, (also because of Rosamind Pike), just not Reacher as I felt it was in the books.
I like with the new version as it is more aligned with how I remember the books as that is what was imprinted in my mind first no doubt.
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@tim said in TV Serieseseses:
but Lily James is hot, and her tits are much bigger than B-cups.
We see them in the show? Will definitely add to my watch list.
I'm three episodes into my rewatch of The Americans and it's living up to my memory of it being the best show I've watched since The Wire.
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@antipodean said in TV Serieseseses:
@kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@antipodean might be going out on a limb...cruise might come a little weird in real life....But i have to say i enjoy his films more often than not, edge of tomorrow is one of those films i will often sit and watch if i come across it on TV
I used to disparage Cruise until I saw him in Collateral. Now I consider him among the best actors of his generation.
He really should play more psycho roles.
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@tim Is amusing reading the comments on social media about that series, on Disney haha
I first saw the original Pam and Tommy show on a rugby trip from Whangarei to Gisborne, there were 2 dudes that wanted to watch it over and over...
Wonder how much fluff they have added though, and calling it a love story?
