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@antipodean might be going out on a limb...cruise might come across little weird in real life....But i have to say i enjoy his films more often than not, edge of tomorrow is one of those films i will often sit and watch if i come across it on TV
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@bovidae said in TV Serieseseses:
Ozark
Finished watching Pt 1 of S4, so only 7 more episodes to go whenever Pt 2 airs. This is one of the best Netflix shows in recent years. Julia Garner is just brilliant as Ruth.
Garner was truly exceptional in last episode. Another Emmy beckons.
I SO want Wendy to come a cropper!
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@kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@antipodean might be going out on a limb...cruise might come a little weird in real life....But i have to say i enjoy his films more often than not, edge of tomorrow is one of those films i will often sit and watch if i come across it on TV
I used to disparage Cruise until I saw him in Collateral. Now I consider him among the best actors of his generation.
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@antipodean don't know if id go that far personally but i definitely wouldn't argue, not a crazy stance to take
edit: @antipodean actually... you've made me think about it and my main thought was a lot of his roles are very similar action guys...but then i remembered things like rock of ages and tropic thunder.....you might be right
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@crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
In many respects Cruise's version was better. Not true to the character but a more believable one.
I believe that even Child says that Reacher is a representation of force. A 'what would happen if this unstoppable physical and mental specimen had no hesitancy to just do what seemed right'
Cruise dialled that back to your standard action hero while this series (which I also enjoy) paints Reacher as some kind of Asperger giant.
The bit that always annoys me about the character is that he swings from being empathetic to having no feelings in the blink of an eye. The books take more time to make that work (until the recent ones anyway).
The Cruise version just took the determined, smart, fighting aspects and kept away from his 'weirdness'.I like Cruise as an actor and enjoyed the movies independently but having read the books about Reacher, I didnt feel he played the character either.
He played his own version well (and also how he felt it would work with audiences) and again i enjoyed it as an action movie, (also because of Rosamind Pike), just not Reacher as I felt it was in the books.
I like with the new version as it is more aligned with how I remember the books as that is what was imprinted in my mind first no doubt.
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@tim said in TV Serieseseses:
but Lily James is hot, and her tits are much bigger than B-cups.
We see them in the show? Will definitely add to my watch list.
I'm three episodes into my rewatch of The Americans and it's living up to my memory of it being the best show I've watched since The Wire.
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@antipodean said in TV Serieseseses:
@kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@antipodean might be going out on a limb...cruise might come a little weird in real life....But i have to say i enjoy his films more often than not, edge of tomorrow is one of those films i will often sit and watch if i come across it on TV
I used to disparage Cruise until I saw him in Collateral. Now I consider him among the best actors of his generation.
He really should play more psycho roles.
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@tim Is amusing reading the comments on social media about that series, on Disney haha
I first saw the original Pam and Tommy show on a rugby trip from Whangarei to Gisborne, there were 2 dudes that wanted to watch it over and over...
Wonder how much fluff they have added though, and calling it a love story?
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Watched about seven minutes of Power Book IV: Force. Won't watch any more. Looks like it was put together by a first year uni drama class.
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@machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
Sigh, dark skinned elves & dwarves - oh and that warrior princess is Galadriel (FFS)
What do you mean? Svartálfar? Black elves and dark elves were part of Nordic mythology. And Tolkien was an expert in that area.
The ongoing allure of Tolkien — Harvard Gazette
In a question-and-answer session, Stephen Mitchell, Harvard professor of Scandinavian and folklore, explores the lasting appeal and the inspirations behind author J.R.R. Tolkien’s classic tale “The Hobbit.” Director Peter Jackson’s adaptation of the book for the big screen opens in the United...
Somewhere I also read his nanny was Icelandic and then as a Professor, his students formed a Viking Club. If you are Finnish, you are likely to see influences from the Kalevala (their national epic) as well.
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For sure, he know all about that, and wrote about that. However in LotR world, all elves are fair skinned, all. There were no svart elves, only too awesome for human fair skinned ones. I’m pretty sure that svart elves are synonymous with dwarves
Tokenism not Tolkienism /dad joke
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@machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
For sure, he know all about that, and wrote about that. However in LotR world, all elves are fair skinned, all. There were no svart elves, only too awesome for human fair skinned ones. I’m pretty sure that svart elves are synonymous with dwarves
Tokenism not Tolkienism /dad joke
1 LOTR - Not so simple https://askmiddlearth.tumblr.com/post/74939141559/dark-elves
I do wonder if the films have created an idea of elves that isn't so clear in the books.2 This new series, I believe, is based on the Silmarillion more than LOTR
3 the skin colour isn't given much emphasis in Tolkien but various fans have been harping on about hair colour and it seems pretty clear that Elves can have dark hair and some have lighter skin than others, more obv. in the Sim..
4 " I’m pretty sure that svart elves are synonymous with dwarves" despite what it says in Quora (and there is some overlap with "darkened by soot") in Nordic mythology no it is not so clear..
Regards Nordic myths, the mythical blond/e or redhaired Viking is likely influenced by slaves from Ireland/Scotland and Viking DNA reveals and many strands from S Europe/Asia, and Viking was more a lifestyle than an ethnicity (a Danish scientist said this not me).. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200916113544.htm
Neolithic chewing gum helps recreate image of ancient Dane
Analysis of birch tar describes a female hunter-gatherer with dark skin and blue eyes
Right, this is risking a wormhole of DNA, redhaired Thor arguments, and LOTR fanpages. Happy for you to disagree. I should get back to my real job.
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It's not a science or history thing, apart from the history of ME. I've read the silmarilion, and the huge History of Middle Earth, and the 3 more recent books. All descriptions of elves are fair skinned, so adding in real world science or politics is irrelevant to ME lore. I not saying Neolithic Danes weren't brown skinned, or that there weren't dark skinned creatures in European myths. I'm stating that Tolkien described elves as fair skinned consistently throughout all his works. The elves of darkness were a description those who didn't go to Valinor, they didn't complete the journey. It was nothing to do with skin colour, Legolas and the Silvan elves are technically 'dark elves'.
Tolkien was a product of his time and wrote about white peoples, mostly. If the peoples/creatures were anything other than fair/white, that was always mentioned.
From that same site
Skin Color in Middle Earth
Okay, the question was specifically about elves and dwarves, but I'm broadening the post to include all people of Middle Earth, since it's all related. All elves are described as having fair/white...
Enjoy work, I've finished for the day
