All Blacks 2022
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@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial Vaa'i at 6 means you need a certain type of no.8, i.e., not Savea.
I remain convinced that looking for a blindside to plug the holes in our loose forwards capability is part of the problem if your starting point is the 8 has to be Savea who should be a super sub.
Except he is the best 8 in the country at the moment.
I know he seems more a SuperRugby 8 than a test one but who goes in ahead of him AND is a better player and leader.
That's the quandary.I also get that if he is at 8 we need a six that plays up and down the track more and stops fringe runners in their tracks.
Now tell me who that guy is.
If Savea is the answer to the leadership question, that's a real problem
@junior said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial Vaa'i at 6 means you need a certain type of no.8, i.e., not Savea.
I remain convinced that looking for a blindside to plug the holes in our loose forwards capability is part of the problem if your starting point is the 8 has to be Savea who should be a super sub.
Except he is the best 8 in the country at the moment.
I know he seems more a SuperRugby 8 than a test one but who goes in ahead of him AND is a better player and leader.
That's the quandary.I also get that if he is at 8 we need a six that plays up and down the track more and stops fringe runners in their tracks.
Now tell me who that guy is.
If Savea is the answer to the leadership question, that's a real problem
Savea brings experience, always give 110% and stepped up to the plate (with SW) when Cane was injured. Can't ask more than that.
That said, I think a fit Sam Cane and a bit of stability in the captaincy will be really helpful but big ups to Ardie and Sam for taking the captaincy in a bloody difficult year.
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Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
Only watched for a game or two this year, but he seems to have matured a heck of a lot. Def. worth a run.
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Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
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So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
BBBR, Vaai
Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
Smith, Mounga
Havili, ALB
Reece, Jordan, JordieBuggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.
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Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
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So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
BBBR, Vaai
Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
Smith, Mounga
Havili, ALB
Reece, Jordan, JordieBuggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.
@taniwharugby Scott Barrett at lock, instead of Vaa'i (who doesn't even play there, at the moment).
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So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
BBBR, Vaai
Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
Smith, Mounga
Havili, ALB
Reece, Jordan, JordieBuggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
Both LHs.
If, hypothetically, JB is used at 12 and Jordan goes to fullback, then Ioane might have to move to the right wing again. There are more options for a power left winger than right wingers.
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So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
BBBR, Vaai
Blackadder, Ardie, Cane
Smith, Mounga
Havili, ALB
Reece, Jordan, JordieBuggar all changes really with a few injuries and pending holidays...obviously a 'what should the 15 be' would have a few changes I expect.
@taniwharugby ALB was remarkably slow against the Crusaders. He's too slow to be centre - can't take a break.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
So what would a startimg 15 look like right now, with our injuries.
Any surprises?
Moody, Samsoni, Hodgman
Both LHs.
If, hypothetically, JB is used at 12 and Jordan goes to fullback, then Ioane might have to move to the right wing again. There are more options for a power left winger than right wingers.
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
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@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
RI is in an AB break, not injured.
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@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
@Stargazer knew I was forgetting someone
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
Rieko isn't.
If you are only selecting fit players as of now, scratch BBBR too.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
I like him but I honestly can't recall him getting too many opportunities to show what he can do against the better teams. Hopefully he gets the chance soon.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@bovidae ioane is injured right now isn't he?
Rieko isn't.
If you are only selecting fit players as of now, scratch BBBR too.
@bovidae I thought Ioane was, didn't realise BBBR was.
So then is Vaai and SB locking then...
I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.
Would like to find a spot for Leicester, but can't see him pushing out Reece/Ioane/Jordie or even Bridge
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Perofeta. Great passing game, great short game. Combination with Christie and works brilliantly with the quick ball Smith would provide too. Get him in.
At the very least he’s a clear third choice that’s worth a look at the next level. After that clutch kick, his goal kicking has been disappointing but the rest of his game has been great. All the time in the world.
I like him but I honestly can't recall him getting too many opportunities to show what he can do against the better teams. Hopefully he gets the chance soon.
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@bovidae I thought Ioane was, didn't realise BBBR was.
So then is Vaai and SB locking then...
I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.
Would like to find a spot for Leicester, but can't see him pushing out Reece/Ioane/Jordie or even Bridge
for a wing spot.@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
I'd push ALB to 12 and Ioane to 13 then.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Foster give Havili one more run-out at 12 to see how he goes, after hopefully working n his game, and then go for that option if it doesn't work out. Reiko then has enough time to settle in at 13 before RWC2023.
We'd really be screwed if we didn't have ALB available at 12 or 13.
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@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).
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@crazy-horse He definitely needs to demonstrate game management against better good teams. That said, he seems to have improved at 10 this year.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse really? He's been extremely impressive every outing if you ask me - with the bonus being he often plays flat and/or on the move, not deep and static.
Agree, I enjoy watching him play. I just think it would be good to see him start at 10 against the better teams. I stand to be corrected but my memory tells me he has mostly been at 15, with a change to 10 later in the game (MP aside).
@crazy-horse yeah would be good to see him do it against the chiefs and hurricanes too
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I don't have access to NZ Herald subscription, but who are the players Gregor Paul is referring to here; https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-two-young-players-a-beacon-of-hope-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-chances/DCH4A7E7GAUNNGW2KLLNPYWRVM/
