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Chris B.

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The case of the shot Gorilla has been annoying me a lot.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/80564180/mother-hits-back-at-critics-as-grief-over-gorillas-death-turns-to-outrage'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/80564180/mother-hits-back-at-critics-as-grief-over-gorillas-death-turns-to-outrage</a>
 
Mothers response:
 
 
 :idiot2:
 
Although to be fair, as obviously retarded as the parents of this child are, the Zoo should be child proofing the enclosure. It should be expected that there will be plenty of complete fucking idiots walking through their gates every day.
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A bit harsh on the parents - I guess a moment's inattention and you don't expect to look up and find your kid has jumped in with the gorilla. Though I'm not sure where god being awesome fits into the story. Not very awesome if you're the gorilla.
 
Once the kid's in there though, the zoo's got no real option than to shoot first and ask questions later.
 
Moral of the story - if you're a gorilla and a kid jumps in your cage - kill it before the men with guns arrive and then sit there looking peaceful and eating a banana.

No Quarter

Yeah - it was the part about thanking god for what was a shitty situatuon all round that led me to the conclusion that the parents are complete fucking idiots. Still, I think it took more then just a moments inattention - witnesses said she was looking after multiple kids so likely lost track of his whereabouts until she saw him with the Gorilla.

taniwharugby

ugly no win situation really...
 
An ape could kill a kid in a moment, and a tranq. may have just antagonised him.
 
Wonder if a powerful taser could have immobilised it instantly to give time to rescue the boy, although experimenting in that situation wasnt really on.

Chris B.

Significant donation from the family, their church and their kid's life insurance company - to the Jane Goodall Institute or similar is probably in order.
 
Failing the second they could rent the...no, don't go there, Chris B.

MN5

My facebook feed has been full of dumbass do gooders saying to tranqualize the ape, cos y'know, they're clearly experts on getting the exact dose right to put something that size to sleep peacefully and without a fuss.
 
As I myself just said on facebook, right decision made, can't compare human life to animal life, even feral families. I'm against the idea of Apes and other large animals in zoos but I think the zoo itself needs to be accountable cos as someone said on the previous page you can never underestimate the combination of youthful ignorance combined with inbred stupidity.

jegga

Here's hoping the Gorilla didn't go to waste
 
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MN5

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Here's hoping the Gorilla didn't go to waste
 
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You're a twisted, evil man.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
that's why I make sure I never miss your posts.

Chris B.

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ugly no win situation really...
 
An ape could kill a kid in a moment, and a tranq. may have just antagonised him.
 
Wonder if a powerful taser could have immobilised it instantly to give time to rescue the boy, although experimenting in that situation wasnt really on.
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Yeah - you don't have time to fuck around agonizing over decisions in that situation. You don't shoot the gorilla and he dismembers the kid you're in a power more shit than using the rifle.
 
Very unfortunate for the gorilla who's basically collateral damage.
 
I had the good luck (or otherwise) to spend a couple of years living in Rome a few years ago. One of the most interesting things to do there, once the novelty of the ruins wore off, was go to the zoo. Was a lesson in how divorced from nature most people are (in NZ we are less so than most of the developed world, I suspect).
 
One time, I saw a girl slip under the railings with a small stick, poke it through the bars of a bobcat's cage and scuff it on the floor like you'd play with a kitten. Weird thing was - it was kind of mesmerising. The bobcat dropped down in an attack crouch, wiggling its hindquarters and staring at the girl. I just sort of stood there for a couple of seconds processing, "Jesus Christ".
 
And then the bobcat launched itself at her face.
 
Luckily it clanged against the bars. She fell back over the railings. And everyone shrieked and wailed and ran to pick her up.
 
Then I wandered over to where the Italians were throwing peanuts at the lions.

Bones

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An ape could kill a kid in a moment, and a tranq. may have just antagonised him. 
Wonder if a powerful taser could have immobilised it instantly to give time to rescue the boy, although experimenting in that situation wasnt really on.</blockquote>
Yeah electricity has this ability to travel through a gorilla to the child it's holding onto!

MN5

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Yeah electricity has this ability to travel through a gorilla to the child it's holding onto!
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In TRs defence he's from up North, only some homes actually have power up that way so he wouldn't be anything close to an expert on how it works.....

taniwharugby

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Yeah electricity has this ability to travel through a gorilla to the child it's holding onto!
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was citing it as an option, saying could it be an option to immobilise a gorilla, obviously not an option while holding a toddler...that said, the voltage required to immediately immobilise an ape might be sufficient to kill it anyway, rendering my initial question pointless, which was just pondering as an alternative to needing to shoot it dead, not the answer to this situation.

Calf

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was citing it as an option, saying could it be an option to immobilise a gorilla, obviously not an option while holding a toddler...that said, the voltage required to immediately immobilise an ape might be sufficient to kill it anyway, rendering my initial question pointless, which was just pondering as an alternative to needing to shoot it dead, not the answer to this situation.
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Jump in the cage wearing a hot lady gorilla suit? Just don't let Harambe catch you or things will get painful...

MN5

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Jump in the cage wearing a hot lady gorilla suit? Just don't let Harambe catch you or things will get painful...
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Mokey

Far worse than the ape story is the recent one where a naked dude intent on suicide jumped into a lion's enclosure and starting antagonising them - to rescue him, they shot both lions dead.
 
Idiot child is one thing. But idiot adult should be fair game.
 
As for the whinging mother, fuck off, lady. As someone else said, a hospital is not a hotel. Unless you are recovering from a bad birth or c-section, there is no reason to stay and take a bed from an actual sick person. (If the mother decided when she left hospital, half of them would probably never leave.)

jegga

Ferals let their kid drink so many soft drinks that he has to have all his teeth removed, lets see how stuff tell the story........ <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/80569221/nelson-marlborough-dhb-asks-for-controls-on-advertising-sugary-drinks-to-children'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/80569221/nelson-marlborough-dhb-asks-for-controls-on-advertising-sugary-drinks-to-children</a>
 
Fuckwits.

MN5

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Ferals let their kid drink so many soft drinks that he has to have all his teeth removed, lets see how stuff tell the story........ <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/80569221/nelson-marlborough-dhb-asks-for-controls-on-advertising-sugary-drinks-to-children'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/80569221/nelson-marlborough-dhb-asks-for-controls-on-advertising-sugary-drinks-to-children</a>
 
Fuckwits.
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Two World Cups, more wins than any other player, possibly the best AB ever......
 
.....but writes boring books with too much emphasis on gliding, he's too friendly to John Key and now this......Richies place in the pantheon is slipping to dangerous "Zac Guildford" like levels now.
 
Ex and I have got my boys to the point where they don't even particularly like soft drinks, they have lollies every now and again as a "treat" like they were in my day. Ferals always have someone else to blame though aye ?
 
Richie must have some kind of superpower though cos despite all the powerade he still has all his teeth, he truly must be god amongst us.

Mokey

Complete lack of responsibility stories always shit me.
 
There is zero need for a 5 year old to have Powerade. Ever. For the amount of sugar in it, you may as well have a Coke.
 
By the by, if the kid had some Powerade then drank a cup of water after, there wouldn't be nearly so much of a problem. It's the prolonged sipping of drinks like Powerade that is bad, because the acid is staying in the mouth and being refreshed. Another bad combo is having a Coke or Powerade then brushing teeth. The acidity in the drinks weakens enamel, then if you brush straight away, you gouge into the teeth. Again, water between. (Also a reason why pregnant women shouldn't brush their teeth after throwing up.)

taniwharugby

Headline: Call for controls on marketing for sugary drinks featuring children's sporting heroes
Should read: Parents give money to kid to buy as many sugary drinks as he likes, now he needs his teeth pulled

No Quarter

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Two World Cups, more wins than any other player, possibly the best AB ever......
 
.....but writes boring books with too much emphasis on gliding, he's too friendly to John Key and now this......Richies place in the pantheon is slipping to dangerous "Zac Guildford" like levels now.
 
Ex and I have got my boys to the point where they don't even particularly like soft drinks, they have lollies every now and again as a "treat" like they were in my day. Ferals always have someone else to blame though aye ?
 
Richie must have some kind of superpower though cos despite all the powerade he still has all his teeth, he truly must be god amongst us.
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Yes, my boy who is 3 1/2 has never had a soft drink in his life. He drinks milk and water, and he loves it.
 
But, we (most people on the Fern) are educated and largely sensible people that can very easily see the harm in these things. Restricting advertising is a way of saving children from their uneducated idiotic parents. The type of people that see Richie drinking a Powerade on T.V. and think "yeah awesome if Richie drinks a Powerade I'll feed my kid 5 per day and he'll end up just like Richie!!!".
 
I can see both sides of the argument, parents need to take responsibility but if we are going to be realistic there will always be parents like this. We can't just do nothing for these kids.

MN5

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Yes, my boy who is 3 1/2 has never had a soft drink in his life. He drinks milk and water, and he loves it.
 
But, we (most people on the Fern) are educated and largely sensible people that can very easily see the harm in these things. Restricting advertising is a way of saving children from their uneducated idiotic parents. The type of people that see Richie drinking a Powerade on T.V. and think "yeah awesome if Richie drinks a Powerade I'll feed my kid 5 per day and he'll end up just like Richie!!!".
 
I can see both sides of the argument, parents need to take responsibility but if we are going to be realistic there will always be parents like this. We can't just do nothing for these kids.
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Man what an arsehole Dad :fishing:
 
You don't even need to be educated to realize the harm that too many soft drinks will do, juice is bad as well. Teeth aside I only had to watch my boys cross country the other day to predict the fat fluffybunnies who'd be at the end of the pack......

The Silver Fern

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