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    If he carries on the same vein of form we saw on Saturday, I wouldn't mind seeing Julian Savea on the right wing. My backline (on latest form) :

    Smith - Barrett - LF (or Clarke) - Barrett - Ioane - Savea - Jordan.

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      I am liking Jodie at 12. I have a number of reasons. First, he is very physical and seems to know the defense nuances at 12. Second, his usual one brain explosion per game can be covered at 12 much easier at 12 than 15. As well, we have one of the premium attacking players at 15 (Jordan) who is a very accurate player. In addition, B. Barrett plays much better with a big physical 12 to straighten if things go south and they know each other well :face_with_monocle:

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        I am liking Jodie at 12. I have a number of reasons. First, he is very physical and seems to know the defense nuances at 12. Second, his usual one brain explosion per game can be covered at 12 much easier at 12 than 15. As well, we have one of the premium attacking players at 15 (Jordan) who is a very accurate player. In addition, B. Barrett plays much better with a big physical 12 to straighten if things go south and they know each other well :face_with_monocle:

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        @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

        who is a very accurate player

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          @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

          who is a very accurate player

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          @bones :face_savoring_food: We all play favorites......

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            @bones :face_savoring_food: We all play favorites......

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            @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

            @bones :face_savoring_food: We all play favorites......

            Oh he's definitely got his upsides! Just not sure accuracy is one of them...this is the same guy you could count on last season for 2-3 handling errors a game and the occasional wayward chip/kick? Not to mention linking....

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

              @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              ALB would be next if There was a injury or loss of form.

              ALB is a world-class midfielder. I wouldn't drop him just to put Reiko, who's still pretty green at 13, together with a winger untested at international level .

              Why not Reiko has been at centre most of last season.
              Got to try new players sometime Leicester deserves a chance IMO.

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              @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

              @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              ALB would be next if There was a injury or loss of form.

              ALB is a world-class midfielder. I wouldn't drop him just to put Reiko, who's still pretty green at 13, together with a winger untested at international level .

              Why not Reiko has been at centre most of last season.
              Got to try new players sometime Leicester deserves a chance IMO.

              Because in Test footy against the likes of Ireland, you don't drop one of your best 4-5 players to give a slot to someone who might deserve a chance.

              Stick Leciester in the 23 by all means to give him a run, but don't build the backline around a inexperienced winger.

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                I am liking Jodie at 12. I have a number of reasons. First, he is very physical and seems to know the defense nuances at 12. Second, his usual one brain explosion per game can be covered at 12 much easier at 12 than 15. As well, we have one of the premium attacking players at 15 (Jordan) who is a very accurate player. In addition, B. Barrett plays much better with a big physical 12 to straighten if things go south and they know each other well :face_with_monocle:

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                @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                I am liking Jodie at 12. I have a number of reasons. First, he is very physical and seems to know the defense nuances at 12. Second, his usual one brain explosion per game can be covered at 12 much easier at 12 than 15. As well, we have one of the premium attacking players at 15 (Jordan) who is a very accurate player. In addition, B. Barrett plays much better with a big physical 12 to straighten if things go south and they know each other well :face_with_monocle:

                Be good to see him at 12 more with the Canes and then some time at 12 in the last 20 of a Test to see how he goes. I'm ambivalent as he has developed into a world-class 15 and I'd rather him there than as an average 12.

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                  @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @bones :face_savoring_food: We all play favorites......

                  Oh he's definitely got his upsides! Just not sure accuracy is one of them...this is the same guy you could count on last season for 2-3 handling errors a game and the occasional wayward chip/kick? Not to mention linking....

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                  @bones Arrr .......the old Silverfern linking myth. Don't know where that comes from. Watch any Crusaders game or the ABs game where Akira ran rampant against the Wobs on his side of the wing. Apart from the odd white line fever incident that maybe sticks in a few minds, one of his strengths as far as I can see.

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                    @bones Arrr .......the old Silverfern linking myth. Don't know where that comes from. Watch any Crusaders game or the ABs game where Akira ran rampant against the Wobs on his side of the wing. Apart from the odd white line fever incident that maybe sticks in a few minds, one of his strengths as far as I can see.

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                    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @bones Arrr .......the old Silverfern linking myth. Don't know where that comes from. Watch any Crusaders game or the ABs game where Akira ran rampant against the Wobs on his side of the wing. Apart from the odd white line fever incident that maybe sticks in a few minds, one of his strengths as far as I can see.

                    I didn't think it was a tsf thing, thought it was just me that banged that drum. He's been much better this year but it was exasperating last year so hopefully he carries on this curve.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      ALB would be next if There was a injury or loss of form.

                      ALB is a world-class midfielder. I wouldn't drop him just to put Reiko, who's still pretty green at 13, together with a winger untested at international level .

                      Why not Reiko has been at centre most of last season.
                      Got to try new players sometime Leicester deserves a chance IMO.

                      Because in Test footy against the likes of Ireland, you don't drop one of your best 4-5 players to give a slot to someone who might deserve a chance.

                      Stick Leciester in the 23 by all means to give him a run, but don't build the backline around a inexperienced winger.

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                      @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      ALB would be next if There was a injury or loss of form.

                      ALB is a world-class midfielder. I wouldn't drop him just to put Reiko, who's still pretty green at 13, together with a winger untested at international level .

                      Why not Reiko has been at centre most of last season.
                      Got to try new players sometime Leicester deserves a chance IMO.

                      Because in Test footy against the likes of Ireland, you don't drop one of your best 4-5 players to give a slot to someone who might deserve a chance.

                      Stick Leciester in the 23 by all means to give him a run, but don't build the backline around a inexperienced winger.

                      I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.
                      Anyway that’s what I would like to see.
                      Not likely go see ALB for maybe most of the season if the rumours are true about the same shoulder gone within 6 months.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        ALB would be next if There was a injury or loss of form.

                        ALB is a world-class midfielder. I wouldn't drop him just to put Reiko, who's still pretty green at 13, together with a winger untested at international level .

                        Why not Reiko has been at centre most of last season.
                        Got to try new players sometime Leicester deserves a chance IMO.

                        Because in Test footy against the likes of Ireland, you don't drop one of your best 4-5 players to give a slot to someone who might deserve a chance.

                        Stick Leciester in the 23 by all means to give him a run, but don't build the backline around a inexperienced winger.

                        I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.
                        Anyway that’s what I would like to see.
                        Not likely go see ALB for maybe most of the season if the rumours are true about the same shoulder gone within 6 months.

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                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.

                        You're dropping a key player and re-arranging most of the backline to give him a chance. It's a bit like dropping Aaron Smith from the 23 as Perofeta deserves a chance and combines well with Christie.

                        Give new players a go by all means and re-jig the midfield, but only after key players like ALB has been subbed and the game isn't at a critical stage

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.

                          You're dropping a key player and re-arranging most of the backline to give him a chance. It's a bit like dropping Aaron Smith from the 23 as Perofeta deserves a chance and combines well with Christie.

                          Give new players a go by all means and re-jig the midfield, but only after key players like ALB has been subbed and the game isn't at a critical stage

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                          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.

                          You're dropping a key player and re-arranging most of the backline to give him a chance. It's a bit like dropping Aaron Smith from the 23 as Perofeta deserves a chance and combines well with Christie.

                          Give new players a go by all means and re-jig the midfield, but only after key players like ALB has been subbed and the game isn't at a critical stage

                          I don't agree I would like to see that Backline out there.
                          Time for some changes.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.

                            You're dropping a key player and re-arranging most of the backline to give him a chance. It's a bit like dropping Aaron Smith from the 23 as Perofeta deserves a chance and combines well with Christie.

                            Give new players a go by all means and re-jig the midfield, but only after key players like ALB has been subbed and the game isn't at a critical stage

                            I don't agree I would like to see that Backline out there.
                            Time for some changes.

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                            @chris

                            Nah. Always pick our best players. Leave experiments to the last 15-20 minutes or against smaller teams. Ask Henry Paul.

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                              @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                              Haha, what gave him away taniwha?

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                                Doesn't sound like Jordie will be shifting to 12 for the ABs anytime soon.

                                On the other hand it wasn't long ago that Fozzie was pretty dismissive of Rieko playing in the midfield so things can change.

                                The headline below is rather click-baity

                                while New Zealand head coach Ian Foster admits watching Barrett at inside centre again has made for interesting viewing, it has no impact on his plans for the All Blacks.
                                
                                “Has it piqued my interest? I’m always interested in what teams are doing. Jordie and I have spoken about it,” Foster told the New Zealand Herald.
                                
                                “If it’s the right thing for the team we understand that but it probably doesn’t change our plans too much.
                                
                                “He goal-kicked so well, his high-ball stuff is very good. He’s got a strong kicking game and they were things he was able to exhibit through the year.
                                
                                “Particularly when you get to the Northern Hemisphere style you have to have the ability to deal with that high ball and make sure you’ve got a strong kicking game in your back three.
                                
                                “He ticked those boxes. He wasn’t at his best against France but the rest of the tour I thought he was one of our success stories.”
                                

                                https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/new-zealand-jordie-barretts-move-to-inside-centre-piques-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-interest/ar-AAW21AE?ocid=st

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                                  As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                  [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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                                    As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                    [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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                                    @chris Shit news for him. Bloody injuries!

                                    Sounds like he may be playing NPC for Waikato at the business end of the comp. to get ready for the Northern tour.

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                                      As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                      [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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                                      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                      [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                                      Boo

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                                        As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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                                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                                        When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

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                                          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                                          When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

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                                          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                                          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                                          When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                                          We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

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