All Blacks 2022

Chris

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

ALB would be next if There was a injury or loss of form.

ALB is a world-class midfielder. I wouldn't drop him just to put Reiko, who's still pretty green at 13, together with a winger untested at international level .

Why not Reiko has been at centre most of last season.
Got to try new players sometime Leicester deserves a chance IMO.

Because in Test footy against the likes of Ireland, you don't drop one of your best 4-5 players to give a slot to someone who might deserve a chance.

Stick Leciester in the 23 by all means to give him a run, but don't build the backline around a inexperienced winger.

I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.
Anyway that’s what I would like to see.
Not likely go see ALB for maybe most of the season if the rumours are true about the same shoulder gone within 6 months.

Victor Meldrew

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.

You're dropping a key player and re-arranging most of the backline to give him a chance. It's a bit like dropping Aaron Smith from the 23 as Perofeta deserves a chance and combines well with Christie.

Give new players a go by all means and re-jig the midfield, but only after key players like ALB has been subbed and the game isn't at a critical stage

Chris

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

I didn’t say build a backline around him just add him into the backline.

You're dropping a key player and re-arranging most of the backline to give him a chance. It's a bit like dropping Aaron Smith from the 23 as Perofeta deserves a chance and combines well with Christie.

Give new players a go by all means and re-jig the midfield, but only after key players like ALB has been subbed and the game isn't at a critical stage

I don't agree I would like to see that Backline out there.
Time for some changes.

Victor Meldrew

@chris

Nah. Always pick our best players. Leave experiments to the last 15-20 minutes or against smaller teams. Ask Henry Paul.

Dan54

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

@yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

Haha, what gave him away taniwha?

KiwiMurph

Doesn't sound like Jordie will be shifting to 12 for the ABs anytime soon.

On the other hand it wasn't long ago that Fozzie was pretty dismissive of Rieko playing in the midfield so things can change.

The headline below is rather click-baity

while New Zealand head coach Ian Foster admits watching Barrett at inside centre again has made for interesting viewing, it has no impact on his plans for the All Blacks.

“Has it piqued my interest? I’m always interested in what teams are doing. Jordie and I have spoken about it,” Foster told the New Zealand Herald.

“If it’s the right thing for the team we understand that but it probably doesn’t change our plans too much.

“He goal-kicked so well, his high-ball stuff is very good. He’s got a strong kicking game and they were things he was able to exhibit through the year.

“Particularly when you get to the Northern Hemisphere style you have to have the ability to deal with that high ball and make sure you’ve got a strong kicking game in your back three.

“He ticked those boxes. He wasn’t at his best against France but the rest of the tour I thought he was one of our success stories.”

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/new-zealand-jordie-barretts-move-to-inside-centre-piques-all-blacks-coach-ian-fosters-interest/ar-AAW21AE?ocid=st

Chris

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

Stargazer

@chris Shit news for him. Bloody injuries!

Sounds like he may be playing NPC for Waikato at the business end of the comp. to get ready for the Northern tour.

booboo

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

Boo

Victor Meldrew

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

Chris

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

Victor Meldrew

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

It was the Yoga

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/9379534/Yoga-works-a-treat-for-powerhouse-Ma-a-Nonu

gt12

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

Smith had some issues for a while there.

Victor Meldrew

@gt12

Smith had some issues for a while there.

A fair few injuries with the Canes, but apart from a broken hand he was pretty injury free AB-wise compared to what we've had since. That or my memory is buggered...

Dan54

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

Victor Meldrew

@dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

What do you mean "end up with"? It's been the norm since 2016....:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

gt12

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@gt12

Smith had some issues for a while there.

A fair few injuries with the Canes, but apart from a broken hand he was pretty injury free AB-wise compared to what we've had since. That or my memory is buggered...

Nah, he would have broken through as first choice far earlier if he hadn't broken his leg and had other injuries. From Wiki:

He made his All Blacks debut age 22, versus Italy in 2004, after a meteoric rise which saw him make his professional debut just a season earlier. In 2006, Smith won a place on the end of year tour to Europe, despite breaking his leg for the Hurricanes earlier that year. In 2007, Smith faced a number of setbacks, mostly involving injury. However, he eventually earned his way back into a starting position, and by 2008, was the first choice centre for the All Blacks.

He was missing from the team for the game that never happened (although so was Nonu), but luckily he got his injuries out the way at the time that Nonu came of age.

https://www.superxv.com/4139-conrad-smiths-injury-woes-continue/

Chris

@dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

@chris said in All Blacks 2022:

As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

Long way to go in SR yet .You could be right last man standing is were we could be at by the time the international season comes around.

Duluth

@dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now

If RTS is fit when the squad is named I think he'll be in it

His skillset is different enough I think they'll want to have a close look. Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

KiwiMurph

@duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

Yeah I could see them bringing him in to train with the ABs but not naming him as part of the official ABs.

There are still 7 rounds + playoffs for players to show their stuff.

The Silver Fern

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