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    The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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      @chris-b best observation in this thread. I had not considered it

      Mind you, he's probably not going to win anyway, so maybe we test the curse

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

        The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

        He did play in midfield at school though

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        • canefanC canefan

          @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

          The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

          He did play in midfield at school though

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          @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

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            @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

            @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

            I did notice that JB didn't seem to make as much impact at 12 last night as he does at 15....

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

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              @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

              @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

              This time it's different

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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                @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                12 is 2nd five-eighth
                13 is centre

                We are not Johnny Foreigner.

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                  Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                  https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                    https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

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                    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                    https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

                    He’d do better than David Havilli to be fair

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                      https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

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                      @stargazer Gower didn't suggest Jules for the 12 jersey unless he wrote that article? reading between the lines he wants Savea in over Clarke, Bridge ect. I'd wager Gower wants Jordie at 12, Beaudy at 10 ,Perofeta at 15, Lord & Vai as the locks and Scott at 6 as the captain😅

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                        The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                        12 is 2nd five-eighth
                        13 is centre

                        We are not Johnny Foreigner.

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                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                        The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                        12 is 2nd five-eighth
                        13 is centre

                        We are not Johnny Foreigner.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

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                          @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                          Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                          I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are possibly Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

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                            @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                            While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                            Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                            I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are possibly Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

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                            @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                            While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                            Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                            I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

                            Heem over Havili? Hodgman over Moody? Robinson over Blackadder? AJ Lam over Fainga'anuku? Funaki over Drummond? Choat over Matera? Lay over Bower? Goodhue over Scott Barrett?

                            Bridge and Sullivan you can't really compare I guess, you also have Barrett v Mo'unga which is even on paper at this level so I think you're exaggerating the truth just a wee bit.

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                              @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                              Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                              I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

                              Heem over Havili? Hodgman over Moody? Robinson over Blackadder? AJ Lam over Fainga'anuku? Funaki over Drummond? Choat over Matera? Lay over Bower? Goodhue over Scott Barrett?

                              Bridge and Sullivan you can't really compare I guess, you also have Barrett v Mo'unga which is even on paper at this level so I think you're exaggerating the truth just a wee bit.

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                              @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                              Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                              I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

                              Heem over Havili? Hodgman over Moody? Robinson over Blackadder? AJ Lam over Fainga'anuku? Funaki over Drummond? Choat over Matera? Lay over Bower? Goodhue over Scott Barrett?

                              Bridge and Sullivan you can't really compare I guess, you also have Barrett v Mo'unga which is even on paper at this level so I think you're exaggerating the truth just a wee bit.

                              All just peoples opinions isn't it.Come the Irish tests it will all be much the same with a couple of changes.
                              AB coaching groups don't normally rebuild this close to a WC,that usually comes after WC time then we see teams rebuilt for the next cycle.

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                              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

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                                @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                When did 'the fern' post this?

                                You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                  When did 'the fern' post this?

                                  You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                  If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

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                                  @duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                  When did 'the fern' post this?

                                  You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                  If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

                                  Yeah apologies for generalising. I should have known better, it's never been done on here before.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    @duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                    When did 'the fern' post this?

                                    You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                    If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

                                    Yeah apologies for generalising. I should have known better, it's never been done on here before.

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                                    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Yeah apologies for generalising. I should have known better, it's never been done on here before.

                                    It's just not good starting point for a discussion

                                    I was trying to offer a solution

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                                      9- Aaron
                                      10- Richie
                                      11- Clarke
                                      12- Jordie
                                      13- Rieko
                                      14- Reece
                                      15- Jordan

                                      21- Christie
                                      22- Beaudy
                                      23- if ALB isn’t fit, Quinn

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                                        9- Aaron
                                        10- Richie
                                        11- Clarke
                                        12- Jordie
                                        13- Rieko
                                        14- Reece
                                        15- Jordan

                                        21- Christie
                                        22- Beaudy
                                        23- if ALB isn’t fit, Quinn

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                                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        9- Aaron
                                        10- Richie
                                        11- Clarke
                                        12- Jordie
                                        13- Rieko
                                        14- Reece
                                        15- Jordan

                                        21- Christie
                                        22- Beaudy
                                        23- if ALB isn’t fit, Quinn

                                        Disappointed to see T Lander, T Chief, T Blue and T Cane not make the cut.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          9- Aaron
                                          10- Richie
                                          11- Clarke
                                          12- Jordie
                                          13- Rieko
                                          14- Reece
                                          15- Jordan

                                          21- Christie
                                          22- Beaudy
                                          23- if ALB isn’t fit, Quinn

                                          Disappointed to see T Lander, T Chief, T Blue and T Cane not make the cut.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          9- Aaron
                                          10- Richie
                                          11- Clarke
                                          12- Jordie
                                          13- Rieko
                                          14- Reece
                                          15- Jordan

                                          21- Christie
                                          22- Beaudy
                                          23- if ALB isn’t fit, Quinn

                                          Disappointed to see T Lander, T Chief, T Blue and T Cane not make the cut.

                                          Thank god three Crusaders made the starting line up

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