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  • antipodeanA antipodean
    1. Aaron
    2. Beaudy
    3. Clarke
    4. Jordie
    5. Rieko
    6. Reece
    7. Jordan

    That's a starting backline I want to see. Power, size, speed and elusiveness. Reece is easily the best right wing in New Zealand. Jordan is too good not to start at fullback where he can get more opportunities. Clarke is the form left winger. Rieko is the form centre and has pace to burn. Aaron's pass can ensure Beaudy can run into space and if he needs to bail out, Jordie has the size and skillset to get over the advantage line.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    1. Aaron
    2. Beaudy
    3. Clarke
    4. Jordie
    5. Rieko
    6. Reece
    7. Jordan

    That's a starting backline I want to see. Power, size, speed and elusiveness. Reece is easily the best right wing in New Zealand. Jordan is too good not to start at fullback where he can get more opportunities. Clarke is the form left winger. Rieko is the form centre and has pace to burn. Aaron's pass can ensure Beaudy can run into space and if he needs to bail out, Jordie has the size and skillset to get over the advantage line.

    Looking bloody good if all 7 players are fit and in form. My only question mark is Reece's defence. Someone really needs to teach him proper tackling technique and not so with the arms.

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

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      • TimT Tim

        @chimoaus In a pool game at the last world cup?

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        @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

        @chimoaus In a pool game at the last world cup?

        Namibia I think?

        Edit: in answer to the question if Jordie had played 10. Was lacking a bit of context a few pages later ...

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        • antipodeanA antipodean
          1. Aaron
          2. Beaudy
          3. Clarke
          4. Jordie
          5. Rieko
          6. Reece
          7. Jordan

          That's a starting backline I want to see. Power, size, speed and elusiveness. Reece is easily the best right wing in New Zealand. Jordan is too good not to start at fullback where he can get more opportunities. Clarke is the form left winger. Rieko is the form centre and has pace to burn. Aaron's pass can ensure Beaudy can run into space and if he needs to bail out, Jordie has the size and skillset to get over the advantage line.

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

          1. Aaron
          2. Beaudy
          3. Clarke
          4. Jordie
          5. Rieko
          6. Reece
          7. Jordan

          That's a starting backline I want to see. Power, size, speed and elusiveness. Reece is easily the best right wing in New Zealand. Jordan is too good not to start at fullback where he can get more opportunities. Clarke is the form left winger. Rieko is the form centre and has pace to burn. Aaron's pass can ensure Beaudy can run into space and if he needs to bail out, Jordie has the size and skillset to get over the advantage line.

          1. Christie
          2. Porefeta (10/15)
          3. Someone who can cover midfield (Jordan & Ioane already cover wing, Jordie covers 15 too). Would have had ALB but injured.
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            The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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              @chris-b best observation in this thread. I had not considered it

              Mind you, he's probably not going to win anyway, so maybe we test the curse

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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                @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                He did play in midfield at school though

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                  The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                  He did play in midfield at school though

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                  @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

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                    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

                    I did notice that JB didn't seem to make as much impact at 12 last night as he does at 15....

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

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                      @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @canefan It did not save Mils in 2007.

                      This time it's different

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

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                        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                        The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                        12 is 2nd five-eighth
                        13 is centre

                        We are not Johnny Foreigner.

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                          Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                          https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                            https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

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                            @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                            https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

                            He’d do better than David Havilli to be fair

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              Has anybody read that article? Was Gower drunk when he suggested Julian Savea for the 12 jersey?

                              https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1515502512987840513

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                              @stargazer Gower didn't suggest Jules for the 12 jersey unless he wrote that article? reading between the lines he wants Savea in over Clarke, Bridge ect. I'd wager Gower wants Jordie at 12, Beaudy at 10 ,Perofeta at 15, Lord & Vai as the locks and Scott at 6 as the captain😅

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                                12 is 2nd five-eighth
                                13 is centre

                                We are not Johnny Foreigner.

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                The problem with going to RWC with Jordie in the 12 jersey is that the Rugby Gods are definitely going to notice that Fozzie is playing fast and loose with the fullbacks at centre rule.

                                12 is 2nd five-eighth
                                13 is centre

                                We are not Johnny Foreigner.

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                                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                  While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

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                                  @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                                  Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                                  I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are possibly Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

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                                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                                    Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                                    I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are possibly Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

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                                    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                                    Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                                    I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

                                    Heem over Havili? Hodgman over Moody? Robinson over Blackadder? AJ Lam over Fainga'anuku? Funaki over Drummond? Choat over Matera? Lay over Bower? Goodhue over Scott Barrett?

                                    Bridge and Sullivan you can't really compare I guess, you also have Barrett v Mo'unga which is even on paper at this level so I think you're exaggerating the truth just a wee bit.

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                                      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                                      Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                                      I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

                                      Heem over Havili? Hodgman over Moody? Robinson over Blackadder? AJ Lam over Fainga'anuku? Funaki over Drummond? Choat over Matera? Lay over Bower? Goodhue over Scott Barrett?

                                      Bridge and Sullivan you can't really compare I guess, you also have Barrett v Mo'unga which is even on paper at this level so I think you're exaggerating the truth just a wee bit.

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                                      @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

                                      Have a look at NZ Super Rugby teams of the week for the last 18 months or so. Jordan & Reece are the only Crusaders regularly making it, with S.Barrett featuring on the occasion. In contrast there are typically 4-5 players from the Chiefs & Blues each, 3 or sometimes more from Hurricanes, usually 2 from the Highlanders & rarely more than that.

                                      I said similar the week that Chiefs outfit won in Chch, the only players I would choose from their 23 over their Blues counterparts are Reece, Jordan, S.Barrett & maybe Codie over Eklund.

                                      Heem over Havili? Hodgman over Moody? Robinson over Blackadder? AJ Lam over Fainga'anuku? Funaki over Drummond? Choat over Matera? Lay over Bower? Goodhue over Scott Barrett?

                                      Bridge and Sullivan you can't really compare I guess, you also have Barrett v Mo'unga which is even on paper at this level so I think you're exaggerating the truth just a wee bit.

                                      All just peoples opinions isn't it.Come the Irish tests it will all be much the same with a couple of changes.
                                      AB coaching groups don't normally rebuild this close to a WC,that usually comes after WC time then we see teams rebuilt for the next cycle.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        While I don't necessarily disagree with this, but according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders. Yet, they have been the bench mark as a team for the last few years and last night the Blues scraped home. Somebody must be doing something right. Coaching? A team being better than the sum of its parts?

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                                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                        When did 'the fern' post this?

                                        You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                        If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                          When did 'the fern' post this?

                                          You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                          If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

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                                          @duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          according to the Fern a first 15 AB team would arguably only have Whitelock, Jordan and possibly Reece from the Crusaders

                                          When did 'the fern' post this?

                                          You've assigned a position to everyone on the forum and are arguing against it. My xv would have more Crusaders, so I disagree with this consensus too? Who can I complain to?

                                          If you (or anyone else) wants to run an AB selection poll, I'll set up a subforum for it. That'll still be imperfect but it'd be something tangible

                                          Yeah apologies for generalising. I should have known better, it's never been done on here before.

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