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  • BonesB Bones

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

    what proves that he's the only decent scrummager imo is watching how Tu'ungafasi, Lomax and especially Ta'avao struggle there. Tu'ungafasi is the best out of those 3 and the best all round prop, but isn't a better scrummager than Laulala.

    That's what I'm trying to figure out though - does he get penalised less? Win more tightheads? What is it?

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    @Bones He can hold his side up, allowing us a platform to attack from on, and yes, doesn't get penalised on defensive scrums. I remember when he went off against the Boks in townsville and they piled on the pressure on Tu'ungafasi who gave away multiple scrum penalties which nearly cost us the test.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      My backline at moment is:

      Smith
      Beauden
      Reece
      Goodhue
      Rieko
      Jordan
      Jordie

      Christie
      Mo'unga
      ALB

      Would happily swap Clarke for Reece if he starts to recapture the form that got him selected in the first place.

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      @No-Quarter so goodhues done enough to overtake ALB already

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      • Y Yeahtheboys

        @No-Quarter so goodhues done enough to overtake ALB already

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        @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

        @No-Quarter so goodhues done enough to overtake ALB already

        I'm fine with either starting, but feel ALB offers more from the bench in terms of cover and impact

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

          @No-Quarter so goodhues done enough to overtake ALB already

          I'm fine with either starting, but feel ALB offers more from the bench in terms of cover and impact

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          @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

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          • Y Yeahtheboys

            @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

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            @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

            @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

            I prefer the utility to come from the bench, purely to minimise disruption. If you only have a 12 on the bench and he comes on for a centre/wing, that's two big changes to the backline.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

              @African-Monkey So do we follow the Boks lead and play each front row 40 mins?

              I think we have to move on from Big Karl. Whether it's age or something else, but both Laulala and Tu’inukuafe contributed so much more around the field when at the Chiefs. I know Tu’inukuafe has had his health issues but he doesn't currently look like he can even play a full half.

              Worrying times if guys can't contribute around the field because they're 29 and 30! 🙂

              The other thing Fozzie said of interest is that positions causing most difficulty are midfield, loose forwards and front row (he listed them in that order and seemed like it was in order of his priority - front row came not quite as an after-thought, but somewhat tacked on).

              Which in some ways is more revealing that he's more settled at lock, inside and outside backs.

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                After listening to Fozzie on the breakdown, I'd say Knowler is on the money - for worse I say, but as Fozzie rides the hotseat, good luck to him with Dad's army.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bones well storm looking at mounga wasn't there coach in crowd last nite

                  Coach was in the Crusaders Box.Craig Belamy is good mates with Razor,Belamy was at the Crusaders captains run on Saturday.
                  They interact with each other regularly, they have spent time at each others bases on a few occasions.

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                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bones well storm looking at mounga wasn't there coach in crowd last nite

                  Coach was in the Crusaders Box.Craig Belamy is good mates with Razor,Belamy was at the Crusaders captains run on Saturday.
                  They interact with each other regularly, they have spent time at each others bases on a few occasions.

                  Along with Dave Rennie? Rennie and Belamy we're in the same box.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    My backline at moment is:

                    Smith
                    Beauden
                    Reece
                    Goodhue
                    Rieko
                    Jordan
                    Jordie

                    Christie
                    Mo'unga
                    ALB

                    Would happily swap Clarke for Reece if he starts to recapture the form that got him selected in the first place.

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                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                    My backline at moment is:

                    Smith
                    Beauden
                    Reece
                    Goodhue
                    Rieko
                    Jordan
                    Jordie

                    Christie
                    Mo'unga
                    ALB

                    Would happily swap Clarke for Reece if he starts to recapture the form that got him selected in the first place.

                    Best to find an alternative. Don't think he's bringing much off the bench this year.

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                    • Y Yeahtheboys

                      @No-Quarter so goodhues done enough to overtake ALB already

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                      @Yeahtheboys isn't he out for a fair while?

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                        https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-and-black-ferns-announce-bumper-international-home-test-schedule/

                        2022 Steinlager Series
                        All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 2 July, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND
                        All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 9 July, 7.05PM, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
                        All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 16 July, 7.05PM, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

                        The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
                        All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 27 August, Kick-off time TBC, Orangetheory Stadium, CHRISTCHURCH
                        All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 3 September, 7.05PM, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

                        The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup
                        All Blacks vs Australia, Saturday 24 September, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bones well storm looking at mounga wasn't there coach in crowd last nite

                          Coach was in the Crusaders Box.Craig Belamy is good mates with Razor,Belamy was at the Crusaders captains run on Saturday.
                          They interact with each other regularly, they have spent time at each others bases on a few occasions.

                          Along with Dave Rennie? Rennie and Belamy we're in the same box.

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                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bones well storm looking at mounga wasn't there coach in crowd last nite

                          Coach was in the Crusaders Box.Craig Belamy is good mates with Razor,Belamy was at the Crusaders captains run on Saturday.
                          They interact with each other regularly, they have spent time at each others bases on a few occasions.

                          Along with Dave Rennie? Rennie and Belamy we're in the same box.

                          For the highlanders game They we’re ,then Bellamy was in the crusaders box for their game,Rennie wasn’t.
                          It is in the article below

                          https://forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4724/crusaders-2022/503

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-and-black-ferns-announce-bumper-international-home-test-schedule/

                            2022 Steinlager Series
                            All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 2 July, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND
                            All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 9 July, 7.05PM, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
                            All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 16 July, 7.05PM, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

                            The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
                            All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 27 August, Kick-off time TBC, Orangetheory Stadium, CHRISTCHURCH
                            All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 3 September, 7.05PM, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

                            The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup
                            All Blacks vs Australia, Saturday 24 September, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND

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                            @Bovidae Thats fucken weird that we play SA twice in SA and play Argentina twice in NZ during the Rugby Championship. I noticed that the three Bledisloe games were announced in Feb but clearly clash with the Rugby Championship so I assume the third Bledisloe is still unknown?
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                            • chimoausC chimoaus

                              @Bovidae Thats fucken weird that we play SA twice in SA and play Argentina twice in NZ during the Rugby Championship. I noticed that the three Bledisloe games were announced in Feb but clearly clash with the Rugby Championship so I assume the third Bledisloe is still unknown?
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                              @chimoaus

                              I think it must be for player welfare. Basically two super long round trips there and back in a week are avoided, replaced by one super-long trip that is a fortnight long.

                              Presumably next year it will be the other way round.

                              I quite like it.

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                              • chimoausC chimoaus

                                @Bovidae Thats fucken weird that we play SA twice in SA and play Argentina twice in NZ during the Rugby Championship. I noticed that the three Bledisloe games were announced in Feb but clearly clash with the Rugby Championship so I assume the third Bledisloe is still unknown?
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                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bovidae Thats fucken weird that we play SA twice in SA and play Argentina twice in NZ during the Rugby Championship.

                                That appears to be the new format to minimise travel.

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                                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                  @chimoaus

                                  I think it must be for player welfare. Basically two super long round trips there and back in a week are avoided, replaced by one super-long trip that is a fortnight long.

                                  Presumably next year it will be the other way round.

                                  I quite like it.

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                                  @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @chimoaus

                                  I think it must be for player welfare. Basically two super long round trips there and back in a week are avoided, replaced by one super-long trip that is a fortnight long.

                                  Presumably next year it will be the other way round.

                                  I quite like it.

                                  Yeah its interesting and a real challenge for NZ in SA but hey we need a good test. Looks like Australia got the rub of the green hosting SA at home and away to Argentina.

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                                    This must also set some sort of record for only playing 3 nations at home in a season? (outside covid) and we don't have any warm up games for the All Blacks?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

                                      I prefer the utility to come from the bench, purely to minimise disruption. If you only have a 12 on the bench and he comes on for a centre/wing, that's two big changes to the backline.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

                                      I prefer the utility to come from the bench, purely to minimise disruption. If you only have a 12 on the bench and he comes on for a centre/wing, that's two big changes to the backline.

                                      agreed, we see it all the time with someone like Banks at the Highlanders....he comes on...but has to come on at 10...so hunt has to move to 15...and gilbert/CGB (whoever) has to move to the wing...and now one sub has 3-4 people playing in new positions

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-and-black-ferns-announce-bumper-international-home-test-schedule/

                                      2022 Steinlager Series
                                      All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 2 July, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND
                                      All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 9 July, 7.05PM, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
                                      All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 16 July, 7.05PM, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

                                      The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
                                      All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 27 August, Kick-off time TBC, Orangetheory Stadium, CHRISTCHURCH
                                      All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 3 September, 7.05PM, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

                                      The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup
                                      All Blacks vs Australia, Saturday 24 September, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND

                                      im going to show my ignorance, i thought SA would still be involved in the RC, this is a real surprise to me

                                      and what the fuck is Lipovitan-D?

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones well storm looking at mounga wasn't there coach in crowd last nite

                                        Coach was in the Crusaders Box.Craig Belamy is good mates with Razor,Belamy was at the Crusaders captains run on Saturday.
                                        They interact with each other regularly, they have spent time at each others bases on a few occasions.

                                        Along with Dave Rennie? Rennie and Belamy we're in the same box.

                                        For the highlanders game They we’re ,then Bellamy was in the crusaders box for their game,Rennie wasn’t.
                                        It is in the article below

                                        https://forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4724/crusaders-2022/503

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones well storm looking at mounga wasn't there coach in crowd last nite

                                        Coach was in the Crusaders Box.Craig Belamy is good mates with Razor,Belamy was at the Crusaders captains run on Saturday.
                                        They interact with each other regularly, they have spent time at each others bases on a few occasions.

                                        Along with Dave Rennie? Rennie and Belamy we're in the same box.

                                        For the highlanders game They we’re ,then Bellamy was in the crusaders box for their game,Rennie wasn’t.
                                        It is in the article below

                                        https://forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4724/crusaders-2022/503

                                        Ok. Must have conflated the two games.

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

                                          I prefer the utility to come from the bench, purely to minimise disruption. If you only have a 12 on the bench and he comes on for a centre/wing, that's two big changes to the backline.

                                          agreed, we see it all the time with someone like Banks at the Highlanders....he comes on...but has to come on at 10...so hunt has to move to 15...and gilbert/CGB (whoever) has to move to the wing...and now one sub has 3-4 people playing in new positions

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-and-black-ferns-announce-bumper-international-home-test-schedule/

                                          2022 Steinlager Series
                                          All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 2 July, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND
                                          All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 9 July, 7.05PM, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
                                          All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 16 July, 7.05PM, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

                                          The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
                                          All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 27 August, Kick-off time TBC, Orangetheory Stadium, CHRISTCHURCH
                                          All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 3 September, 7.05PM, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

                                          The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup
                                          All Blacks vs Australia, Saturday 24 September, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND

                                          im going to show my ignorance, i thought SA would still be involved in the RC, this is a real surprise to me

                                          and what the fuck is Lipovitan-D?

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @No-Quarter fair enough. Never understood the concept of the bench player needing to cover all the positions. If the starters can cover positions then it doesn’t matter surely?

                                          I prefer the utility to come from the bench, purely to minimise disruption. If you only have a 12 on the bench and he comes on for a centre/wing, that's two big changes to the backline.

                                          agreed, we see it all the time with someone like Banks at the Highlanders....he comes on...but has to come on at 10...so hunt has to move to 15...and gilbert/CGB (whoever) has to move to the wing...and now one sub has 3-4 people playing in new positions

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-and-black-ferns-announce-bumper-international-home-test-schedule/

                                          2022 Steinlager Series
                                          All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 2 July, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND
                                          All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 9 July, 7.05PM, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
                                          All Blacks vs Ireland, Saturday 16 July, 7.05PM, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

                                          The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
                                          All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 27 August, Kick-off time TBC, Orangetheory Stadium, CHRISTCHURCH
                                          All Blacks vs Argentina, Saturday 3 September, 7.05PM, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

                                          The Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship and Bledisloe Cup
                                          All Blacks vs Australia, Saturday 24 September, 7.05PM, Eden Park, AUCKLAND

                                          im going to show my ignorance, i thought SA would still be involved in the RC, this is a real surprise to me

                                          and what the fuck is Lipovitan-D?

                                          Further up the thread peeps mention we play SA twice in SA, and Art twice here.

                                          This counts as a #booboo

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