All Blacks 2022
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai
What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?
Depends on if you consider Jesus God or the son of God? But I'm sure there can be both a Maori and Tongan Jesus.
TBH, while I thought Tuipulotou was a good player I never consider him to be at Jesus status.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 Agreed he was a good player - similar player to Charlie Ngatai
What, are you saying there are TWO Gods now ?
Depends on if you consider Jesus God or the son of God? But I'm sure there can be both a Maori and Tongan Jesus.
TBH, while I thought Tuipulotou was a good player I never consider him to be at Jesus status.
I think he scored a try ages ago when he steamrolled Corne Krige nice and emphatically. That was pretty cool.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
No I talking about the likes of (just an example) James Parsons, Bryn hall etc etc. are 2 that have reckoned he was best 6 early on, you know someone who actually plays and has played, I know it seems dumb to take any notice of people who actually tied up in game and watch/play it as jobs when we got a forum to take notice of.
I enjoy listening to that podcast but with one player current and another player not very long retired they don't critique too many players. There is a lot of praise thrown around - Bryn Hall's team of the week is typically stacked with Crusaders and Parsons is very Blues-centric as he's so tight with the whole squad. They asked them to pick their AB teams in an earlier podcast this season and the general theme was that there's so much depth that it's going to be hard to pick anyone - they ended up just naming all the contenders without really giving a strong take one way or the other.
For example they talked about the midfield and went on about how great the depth was - well last year in tight tests the midfield was found wanting on numerous occasions - but there was no reference to that at all - just supposedly how many options they have.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
Why move Cane at this late stage of his career, if you can move Papali'i?
isn;t that a pretty normal suggestion, as players slow slightly move them and let the new younger guy have a shot in their prefered position
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
Nonu and 2007 makes me think of the Junior All Blacks Team that played in the Pacific Nations Cup.
Nonu wasn't the only player to miss the 2007 RWC that came back into the ABs fold - Weepu, Cory Jane and Kaino come to mind.
Here's the AB team that beat Austalia A 50 points to nil in Dunedin in 2007.
Junior All Blacks: Cory Jane, Scott Hamilton, Ma'a Nonu, Sam Tuitupou, Anthony Tuitavake, Stephen Donald, Andrew Ellis; Sione Lauaki, Marty Holah (capt), Jerome Kaino, Tom Donnelly, Hoani MacDonald, John Afoa, Derren Witcombe, Clarke Dermody. Res: Corey Flynn, Campbell Johnstone, Mose Tuiali'i, Daniel Braid, Jimmy Cowan, Stephen Brett, Tane Tu'ipulotu.
Now make this team for 2022 (Super rugby players not in the AB 36)
How many does 2007 win by? 40? 50?
@mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Sione Mafileo
4 Strange
5 Cowley-Tuioti
6 Robinson
7 Lachlan Boshier
8 Sowakula
9 Perenara
10 Perofeta/Ioane
11 Fainga'anuku
12 Nankivell/Faiane
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Telea
15 Sullivan16 Eklund
17 Ross
18 Jager
19 Goodhue/Dunshea
20 Sanders/Harmon
21 Hall
22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
23 Stevenson -
@mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Sione Mafileo
4 Strange
5 Cowley-Tuioti
6 Robinson
7 Lachlan Boshier
8 Sowakula
9 Perenara
10 Perofeta/Ioane
11 Fainga'anuku
12 Nankivell/Faiane
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Telea
15 Sullivan16 Eklund
17 Ross
18 Jager
19 Goodhue/Dunshea
20 Sanders/Harmon
21 Hall
22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
23 Stevenson -
@Tim no TUJ?
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@Kiwiwomble Injured last year.
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@Tim missed that was a consideration
@Kiwiwomble As the AB squad for this year is unknown, I guessed a B team for last year.
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@mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Sione Mafileo
4 Strange
5 Cowley-Tuioti
6 Robinson
7 Lachlan Boshier
8 Sowakula
9 Perenara
10 Perofeta/Ioane
11 Fainga'anuku
12 Nankivell/Faiane
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Telea
15 Sullivan16 Eklund
17 Ross
18 Jager
19 Goodhue/Dunshea
20 Sanders/Harmon
21 Hall
22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
23 Stevenson -
@Tim Based on who was later selected the starting locks would have to be Strange and Dunshea. Kirifi would be in the mix too.
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@Tim Based on who was later selected the starting locks would have to be Strange and Dunshea. Kirifi would be in the mix too.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae I'm the coach and selector for this one.
So why are you picking TJP?
He wasn't even in NZ. -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
No I talking about the likes of (just an example) James Parsons, Bryn hall etc etc. are 2 that have reckoned he was best 6 early on, you know someone who actually plays and has played, I know it seems dumb to take any notice of people who actually tied up in game and watch/play it as jobs when we got a forum to take notice of.
I enjoy listening to that podcast but with one player current and another player not very long retired they don't critique too many players. There is a lot of praise thrown around - Bryn Hall's team of the week is typically stacked with Crusaders and Parsons is very Blues-centric as he's so tight with the whole squad. They asked them to pick their AB teams in an earlier podcast this season and the general theme was that there's so much depth that it's going to be hard to pick anyone - they ended up just naming all the contenders without really giving a strong take one way or the other.
For example they talked about the midfield and went on about how great the depth was - well last year in tight tests the midfield was found wanting on numerous occasions - but there was no reference to that at all - just supposedly how many options they have.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
No I talking about the likes of (just an example) James Parsons, Bryn hall etc etc. are 2 that have reckoned he was best 6 early on, you know someone who actually plays and has played, I know it seems dumb to take any notice of people who actually tied up in game and watch/play it as jobs when we got a forum to take notice of.
I enjoy listening to that podcast but with one player current and another player not very long retired they don't critique too many players. There is a lot of praise thrown around - Bryn Hall's team of the week is typically stacked with Crusaders and Parsons is very Blues-centric as he's so tight with the whole squad. They asked them to pick their AB teams in an earlier podcast this season and the general theme was that there's so much depth that it's going to be hard to pick anyone - they ended up just naming all the contenders without really giving a strong take one way or the other.
For example they talked about the midfield and went on about how great the depth was - well last year in tight tests the midfield was found wanting on numerous occasions - but there was no reference to that at all - just supposedly how many options they have.
Yep I enjoy podcast, and not saying how good or bad anthing is, I got asked to name any respected rugby pundits who have said that Frizzell was playiing bloody well earlier in season, they were 2 that sprung to mind. Whoever asked me was talking about some reporter Paul Cully.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
Why move Cane at this late stage of his career, if you can move Papali'i?
isn;t that a pretty normal suggestion, as players slow slightly move them and let the new younger guy have a shot in their prefered position
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
Why move Cane at this late stage of his career, if you can move Papali'i?
isn;t that a pretty normal suggestion, as players slow slightly move them and let the new younger guy have a shot in their prefered position
Seems to be for rugby forums, I remember when some were suggesting Richie was tried on blindside or vat 8.
But with Dalton haven't I seen him at 6 for the Blues? -
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
No I talking about the likes of (just an example) James Parsons, Bryn hall etc etc. are 2 that have reckoned he was best 6 early on, you know someone who actually plays and has played, I know it seems dumb to take any notice of people who actually tied up in game and watch/play it as jobs when we got a forum to take notice of.
I enjoy listening to that podcast but with one player current and another player not very long retired they don't critique too many players. There is a lot of praise thrown around - Bryn Hall's team of the week is typically stacked with Crusaders and Parsons is very Blues-centric as he's so tight with the whole squad. They asked them to pick their AB teams in an earlier podcast this season and the general theme was that there's so much depth that it's going to be hard to pick anyone - they ended up just naming all the contenders without really giving a strong take one way or the other.
For example they talked about the midfield and went on about how great the depth was - well last year in tight tests the midfield was found wanting on numerous occasions - but there was no reference to that at all - just supposedly how many options they have.
Yep I enjoy podcast, and not saying how good or bad anthing is, I got asked to name any respected rugby pundits who have said that Frizzell was playiing bloody well earlier in season, they were 2 that sprung to mind. Whoever asked me was talking about some reporter Paul Cully.
@Dan54 I dont think anyone was saying Frizzell wasnt playing well in super, what people are saying was his inability to take any resemblence of that super form into the International game.
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@taniwharugby Read that and thought it has been said many times in various forms on the Fern.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
Why move Cane at this late stage of his career, if you can move Papali'i?
isn;t that a pretty normal suggestion, as players slow slightly move them and let the new younger guy have a shot in their prefered position
Seems to be for rugby forums, I remember when some were suggesting Richie was tried on blindside or vat 8.
But with Dalton haven't I seen him at 6 for the Blues?@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
But with Dalton haven't I seen him at 6 for the Blues?
When he first debuted for the Blues in 2018 he played 6.
Then in the NPC later in 2018 for Auckland when Auckland won the NPC he played 7 - since then has mostly played 7.
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@mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Sione Mafileo
4 Strange
5 Cowley-Tuioti
6 Robinson
7 Lachlan Boshier
8 Sowakula
9 Perenara
10 Perofeta/Ioane
11 Fainga'anuku
12 Nankivell/Faiane
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Telea
15 Sullivan16 Eklund
17 Ross
18 Jager
19 Goodhue/Dunshea
20 Sanders/Harmon
21 Hall
22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
23 Stevenson@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life Let's guess a 23 based on players who weren't selected in the initial AB squad last year.
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Sione Mafileo
4 Strange
5 Cowley-Tuioti
6 Robinson
7 Lachlan Boshier
8 Sowakula
9 Perenara
10 Perofeta/Ioane
11 Fainga'anuku
12 Nankivell/Faiane
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen
14 Telea
15 Sullivan16 Eklund
17 Ross
18 Jager
19 Goodhue/Dunshea
20 Sanders/Harmon
21 Hall
22 Hunt/Ioane/Perofeta/Black/Plummer
23 StevensonSelby-Rickitt instead of Strange for me.
