All Blacks 2022
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.
Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.
@MajorRage said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.
Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.
I'd suggest Jordie is pretty close too.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
Yeah RI is all I came up with too - as a wing.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing. He adds more to the team at centre with ALB gone. We can still put Reece and Jordan on the outsides. If the game plan calls for someone who can dot the ball in the corner through a tackle then we need to select one of those but not Ioane.
Our back line picks itself at the moment. Need to work on the understudies though.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing. He adds more to the team at centre with ALB gone. We can still put Reece and Jordan on the outsides. If the game plan calls for someone who can dot the ball in the corner through a tackle then we need to select one of those but not Ioane.
Our back line picks itself at the moment. Need to work on the understudies though.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing.
There's a reputation lag. Because he was a work in progress centre a few years ago people still see him as that despite him really developing at 13.
The same reputation lag applies in reverse to Jack Goodhue - who had a great 2018 at 13 for the ABs.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing.
There's a reputation lag. Because he was a work in progress centre a few years ago people still see him as that despite him really developing at 13.
The same reputation lag applies in reverse to Jack Goodhue - who had a great 2018 at 13 for the ABs.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing.
There's a reputation lag. Because he was a work in progress centre a few years ago people still see him as that despite him really developing at 13.
The same reputation lag applies in reverse to Jack Goodhue - who had a great 2018 at 13 for the ABs.
Reputation lag basically describes the starting AB pack from last year.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing. He adds more to the team at centre with ALB gone. We can still put Reece and Jordan on the outsides. If the game plan calls for someone who can dot the ball in the corner through a tackle then we need to select one of those but not Ioane.
Our back line picks itself at the moment. Need to work on the understudies though.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Our back line picks itself at the moment.
really? For me, only 9, 13 and then Jordan on form pick themselves, where the latter goes depends on several things (who plays 10, where/if they play JB)
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
I don't watch enough of overseas rugby to know whether he is the best centre in the world or not.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
The question was which players would be in the world top 10. I think Rieko is developing nicely into a world class 13, but already in the top 10 overall (regardless of position)? No. A world top 10 of centres: yes.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
The question was which players would be in the world top 10. I think Rieko is developing nicely into a world class 13, but already in the top 10 overall (regardless of position)? No. A world top 10 of centres: yes.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
The question was which players would be in the world top 10. I think Rieko is developing nicely into a world class 13, but already in the top 10 overall (regardless of position)? No. A world top 10 of centres: yes.
in that case, we have none, and RI would be the closest.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.
there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13
He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance
The question was which players would be in the world top 10. I think Rieko is developing nicely into a world class 13, but already in the top 10 overall (regardless of position)? No. A world top 10 of centres: yes.
in that case, we have none, and RI would be the closest.
@mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.
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@mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.
and you would be wrong. Jordie Barrett a better player than RI??? lol
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life That's one opinion. I'd put Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan ahead of him.
and you would be wrong. Jordie Barrett a better player than RI??? lol
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@mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.
mine is better though
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Ok, so we are struggling to get a player in the top 10 at the moment. I am.hoping Jordam will develop into one, but I do worry what he will be like when his pace is gone. A bit like BB in that respect.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life All opinions are just that, including yours.
mine is better though
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can anyone actually name the top 10 players in the world right now?
This was all much easier when we just said
R McCaw
D Carterand left the rest to fend for themselves
