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    kiwi_expat
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    #1254

    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/the-one-two-punch-that-could-ignite-the-all-blacks-attack/

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    • DuluthD Offline
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      Duluth
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      #1255

      Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

      Smith, Christie & someone new

      Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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        cgrant
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        #1256

        On pure current form, the AB team could be :

        De Groot
        ST
        Ofa T
        Sangster
        Lord
        Ioane
        Papali'i
        Sotutu
        Ratima
        Perofeta
        Clarke
        TUJ
        Ioane
        Jordan
        Barrett

        Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

        Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

          Smith, Christie & someone new

          Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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          Bovidae
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          #1257

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

          Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

          Smith, Christie & someone new

          And there are plenty of tests left to develop that 3rd halfback before the RWC, and beyond 2023.

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          • C cgrant

            On pure current form, the AB team could be :

            De Groot
            ST
            Ofa T
            Sangster
            Lord
            Ioane
            Papali'i
            Sotutu
            Ratima
            Perofeta
            Clarke
            TUJ
            Ioane
            Jordan
            Barrett

            Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

            Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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            Bones
            wrote on last edited by
            #1258

            @cgrant pretty hard to justify Barrett at fullback on form but otherwise good...

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              So who’s captain if not Cane?

              He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

              Dalton.

              Go all in.

              I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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              #1259

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              So who’s captain if not Cane?

              He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

              Dalton.

              Go all in.

              I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

              Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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              • C cgrant

                On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                De Groot
                ST
                Ofa T
                Sangster
                Lord
                Ioane
                Papali'i
                Sotutu
                Ratima
                Perofeta
                Clarke
                TUJ
                Ioane
                Jordan
                Barrett

                Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                Frank
                wrote on last edited by
                #1260

                @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                De Groot
                ST
                Ofa T
                Sangster
                Lord
                Ioane
                Papali'i
                Sotutu
                Ratima
                Perofeta
                Clarke
                TUJ
                Ioane
                Jordan
                Barrett

                This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                  Dalton.

                  Go all in.

                  I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                  Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                  Kirwan
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1261

                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                  Dalton.

                  Go all in.

                  I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                  Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

                  More referring to being given the captaincy so early on.

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                  • F Frank

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                    On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                    De Groot
                    ST
                    Ofa T
                    Sangster
                    Lord
                    Ioane
                    Papali'i
                    Sotutu
                    Ratima
                    Perofeta
                    Clarke
                    TUJ
                    Ioane
                    Jordan
                    Barrett

                    This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                    cgrant
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1262

                    @Frank
                    Not yet, that's for sure, but it is a form XV, not a possible AB team.

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                      #1263

                      I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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                        #1264

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                        Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

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                          cgrant
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                          #1265

                          Rieko Ioane.

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                          • MajorPomM MajorPom

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                            Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

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                            @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                            Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

                            I'd suggest Jordie is pretty close too.

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                            • C cgrant

                              Rieko Ioane.

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                              Stargazer
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                              #1267

                              @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                #1268

                                Maybe the forum is a week or two behind in assessing form but QT’s little sojourn on the wing has really lifted his confidence and ignited his play at 12.
                                I wouldn’t be dismissive of his position in the pecking order just yet.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                  Crazy Horse
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                                  #1269

                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                  Yeah RI is all I came up with too - as a wing.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                    #1270

                                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                    there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

                                    He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                      there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

                                      He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

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                                      Crucial
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                                      #1271

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                      there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

                                      He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

                                      I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing. He adds more to the team at centre with ALB gone. We can still put Reece and Jordan on the outsides. If the game plan calls for someone who can dot the ball in the corner through a tackle then we need to select one of those but not Ioane.

                                      Our back line picks itself at the moment. Need to work on the understudies though.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                        there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

                                        He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

                                        I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing. He adds more to the team at centre with ALB gone. We can still put Reece and Jordan on the outsides. If the game plan calls for someone who can dot the ball in the corner through a tackle then we need to select one of those but not Ioane.

                                        Our back line picks itself at the moment. Need to work on the understudies though.

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing.

                                        There's a reputation lag. Because he was a work in progress centre a few years ago people still see him as that despite him really developing at 13.

                                        The same reputation lag applies in reverse to Jack Goodhue - who had a great 2018 at 13 for the ABs.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing.

                                          There's a reputation lag. Because he was a work in progress centre a few years ago people still see him as that despite him really developing at 13.

                                          The same reputation lag applies in reverse to Jack Goodhue - who had a great 2018 at 13 for the ABs.

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                                          #1273

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          I don’t see why people are obsessed with putting him back on the wing.

                                          There's a reputation lag. Because he was a work in progress centre a few years ago people still see him as that despite him really developing at 13.

                                          The same reputation lag applies in reverse to Jack Goodhue - who had a great 2018 at 13 for the ABs.

                                          Reputation lag basically describes the starting AB pack from last year.

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