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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      So who’s captain if not Cane?

      He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

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      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      So who’s captain if not Cane?

      He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

      Dalton.

      Go all in.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        So who’s captain if not Cane?

        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

        Dalton.

        Go all in.

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        #1248

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        So who’s captain if not Cane?

        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

        Dalton.

        Go all in.

        I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

          Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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          • MN5M MN5

            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

            Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

            Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

            Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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            canefan
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            #1250

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

            Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

            Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

            Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

            He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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            • canefanC canefan

              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

              Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

              Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

              Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

              He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

              Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

              Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

              Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

              He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

              Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                #1252

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                Cantab

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                  Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                  Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                  He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                  Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                  Cantab

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                  #1253

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                  Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                  Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                  He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                  Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                  Cantab

                  You move here, you’re from here. Stop ruining my reminiscing with facts.

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                    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/the-one-two-punch-that-could-ignite-the-all-blacks-attack/

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                      Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                      Smith, Christie & someone new

                      Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                        #1256

                        On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                        De Groot
                        ST
                        Ofa T
                        Sangster
                        Lord
                        Ioane
                        Papali'i
                        Sotutu
                        Ratima
                        Perofeta
                        Clarke
                        TUJ
                        Ioane
                        Jordan
                        Barrett

                        Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                        Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                          Smith, Christie & someone new

                          Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                          Bovidae
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                          #1257

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                          Smith, Christie & someone new

                          And there are plenty of tests left to develop that 3rd halfback before the RWC, and beyond 2023.

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                          • C cgrant

                            On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                            De Groot
                            ST
                            Ofa T
                            Sangster
                            Lord
                            Ioane
                            Papali'i
                            Sotutu
                            Ratima
                            Perofeta
                            Clarke
                            TUJ
                            Ioane
                            Jordan
                            Barrett

                            Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                            Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                            @cgrant pretty hard to justify Barrett at fullback on form but otherwise good...

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              So who’s captain if not Cane?

                              He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                              Dalton.

                              Go all in.

                              I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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                              booboo
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                              #1259

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              So who’s captain if not Cane?

                              He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                              Dalton.

                              Go all in.

                              I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                              Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                              • C cgrant

                                On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                De Groot
                                ST
                                Ofa T
                                Sangster
                                Lord
                                Ioane
                                Papali'i
                                Sotutu
                                Ratima
                                Perofeta
                                Clarke
                                TUJ
                                Ioane
                                Jordan
                                Barrett

                                Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                                Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                                #1260

                                @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                                On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                De Groot
                                ST
                                Ofa T
                                Sangster
                                Lord
                                Ioane
                                Papali'i
                                Sotutu
                                Ratima
                                Perofeta
                                Clarke
                                TUJ
                                Ioane
                                Jordan
                                Barrett

                                This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                  Dalton.

                                  Go all in.

                                  I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                                  Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                                  Kirwan
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                                  #1261

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                  Dalton.

                                  Go all in.

                                  I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                                  Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

                                  More referring to being given the captaincy so early on.

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                                  • FrankF Frank

                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                    De Groot
                                    ST
                                    Ofa T
                                    Sangster
                                    Lord
                                    Ioane
                                    Papali'i
                                    Sotutu
                                    Ratima
                                    Perofeta
                                    Clarke
                                    TUJ
                                    Ioane
                                    Jordan
                                    Barrett

                                    This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                                    cgrant
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                                    #1262

                                    @Frank
                                    Not yet, that's for sure, but it is a form XV, not a possible AB team.

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                                      #1263

                                      I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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                                        #1264

                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                                        Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

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                                          #1265

                                          Rieko Ioane.

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