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  • canefanC canefan

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

    He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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    MN5
    wrote on last edited by
    #1251

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

    He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

    Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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    • MN5M MN5

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

      He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

      Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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      Chris
      wrote on last edited by
      #1252

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

      He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

      Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

      Cantab

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

        Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

        Cantab

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        MN5
        wrote on last edited by
        #1253

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

        Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

        Cantab

        You move here, you’re from here. Stop ruining my reminiscing with facts.

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          kiwi_expat
          wrote on last edited by
          #1254

          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/the-one-two-punch-that-could-ignite-the-all-blacks-attack/

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          • DuluthD Offline
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            Duluth
            wrote on last edited by
            #1255

            Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

            Smith, Christie & someone new

            Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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              cgrant
              wrote on last edited by
              #1256

              On pure current form, the AB team could be :

              De Groot
              ST
              Ofa T
              Sangster
              Lord
              Ioane
              Papali'i
              Sotutu
              Ratima
              Perofeta
              Clarke
              TUJ
              Ioane
              Jordan
              Barrett

              Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

              Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                Smith, Christie & someone new

                Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                Bovidae
                wrote on last edited by
                #1257

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                Smith, Christie & someone new

                And there are plenty of tests left to develop that 3rd halfback before the RWC, and beyond 2023.

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                • C cgrant

                  On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                  De Groot
                  ST
                  Ofa T
                  Sangster
                  Lord
                  Ioane
                  Papali'i
                  Sotutu
                  Ratima
                  Perofeta
                  Clarke
                  TUJ
                  Ioane
                  Jordan
                  Barrett

                  Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                  Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

                  BonesB Online
                  BonesB Online
                  Bones
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1258

                  @cgrant pretty hard to justify Barrett at fullback on form but otherwise good...

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                    Dalton.

                    Go all in.

                    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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                    booboo
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1259

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                    Dalton.

                    Go all in.

                    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                    Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                    • C cgrant

                      On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                      De Groot
                      ST
                      Ofa T
                      Sangster
                      Lord
                      Ioane
                      Papali'i
                      Sotutu
                      Ratima
                      Perofeta
                      Clarke
                      TUJ
                      Ioane
                      Jordan
                      Barrett

                      Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                      Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                      Frank
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1260

                      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                      On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                      De Groot
                      ST
                      Ofa T
                      Sangster
                      Lord
                      Ioane
                      Papali'i
                      Sotutu
                      Ratima
                      Perofeta
                      Clarke
                      TUJ
                      Ioane
                      Jordan
                      Barrett

                      This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        So who’s captain if not Cane?

                        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                        Dalton.

                        Go all in.

                        I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                        Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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                        Kirwan
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1261

                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                        So who’s captain if not Cane?

                        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                        Dalton.

                        Go all in.

                        I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                        Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

                        More referring to being given the captaincy so early on.

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                        • FrankF Frank

                          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                          On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                          De Groot
                          ST
                          Ofa T
                          Sangster
                          Lord
                          Ioane
                          Papali'i
                          Sotutu
                          Ratima
                          Perofeta
                          Clarke
                          TUJ
                          Ioane
                          Jordan
                          Barrett

                          This guy good enough to be an AB?

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                          cgrant
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1262

                          @Frank
                          Not yet, that's for sure, but it is a form XV, not a possible AB team.

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                          • Crazy HorseC Offline
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                            Crazy Horse
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1263

                            I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

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                              MajorPom
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1264

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                              I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                              Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

                              Victor MeldrewV 1 Reply Last reply
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                                cgrant
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1265

                                Rieko Ioane.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                                  Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

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                                  Victor Meldrew
                                  wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
                                  #1266

                                  @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  I had a question that I couldn't answer confidently from an Aussie sports fan who takes a passing interest in rugby. Are there any ABs that one could confidently name in the top ten players in the world at the moment? I couldn't name one.

                                  Will Jordan & perhaps Ardie Savea.

                                  I'd suggest Jordie is pretty close too.

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                                  • C cgrant

                                    Rieko Ioane.

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                                    Stargazer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1267

                                    @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                    • CrucialC Offline
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                                      Crucial
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1268

                                      Maybe the forum is a week or two behind in assessing form but QT’s little sojourn on the wing has really lifted his confidence and ignited his play at 12.
                                      I wouldn’t be dismissive of his position in the pecking order just yet.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                        Crazy Horse
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1269

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                        Yeah RI is all I came up with too - as a wing.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

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                                          mariner4life
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1270

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @cgrant If he still played on the wing, yes. Not as a midfielder.

                                          there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't take RI on current form at 13

                                          He would transform Ireland to RWC favourites instantly for instance

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