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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    So who’s captain if not Cane?

    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

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    #1240

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    So who’s captain if not Cane?

    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

    God fuck no

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      #1241

      Smith, with Coles or whitelock taking over when he's subbed

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      • BonesB Bones

        Smith, with Coles or whitelock taking over when he's subbed

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        #1242

        @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

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        • TimT Tim

          @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

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          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

          Yes

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @Kirwan or Whitelock

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            Kirwan
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            #1244

            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Kirwan or Whitelock

            Probably the safest pick

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              A loose head (can scrum.and run)
              ST
              Ofa
              Lord
              Whitelock
              Akira
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Barrett
              Clark
              RYS
              RI
              Reece
              Jordan

              Coles
              A Hodgeman
              A tight head
              T Vaa'i
              A Savea
              Christie
              Mounga
              J Barrett

              Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

              If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
              And we're gonna run and bash things.

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              #1245

              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

              A loose head (can scrum.and run)
              ST
              Ofa
              Lord
              Whitelock
              Akira
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Barrett
              Clark
              RYS
              RI
              Reece
              Jordan

              Coles
              A Hodgeman
              A tight head
              T Vaa'i
              A Savea
              Christie
              Mounga
              J Barrett

              Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

              If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
              And we're gonna run and bash things.

              Good selection, but I wouldn't have RTS (assume you made a typo) in the team until he has a few more games under his belt. Be good to have him in the squad though to get experience as he seems a real prospect.

              I think Foster will go with Goodhue at 12 and QT as backup. Agree with Cane, though it's a bit hard on Papalii, as we seem to play better with a fully-firing Sam.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

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                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1247

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                  Dalton.

                  Go all in.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                    Dalton.

                    Go all in.

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                    Kirwan
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                    #1248

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                    Dalton.

                    Go all in.

                    I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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                      #1249

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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                        canefan
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                        #1250

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                          Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                          He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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                          MN5
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                          #1251

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                          Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                          He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                          Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                            Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                            Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                            He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                            Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                            #1252

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                            Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                            Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                            He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                            Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                            Cantab

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                              Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                              Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                              He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                              Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                              Cantab

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                              MN5
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                              #1253

                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                              Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                              Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                              He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                              Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                              Cantab

                              You move here, you’re from here. Stop ruining my reminiscing with facts.

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                                #1254

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/the-one-two-punch-that-could-ignite-the-all-blacks-attack/

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                                  Duluth
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                                  #1255

                                  Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                                  Smith, Christie & someone new

                                  Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                                    #1256

                                    On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                    De Groot
                                    ST
                                    Ofa T
                                    Sangster
                                    Lord
                                    Ioane
                                    Papali'i
                                    Sotutu
                                    Ratima
                                    Perofeta
                                    Clarke
                                    TUJ
                                    Ioane
                                    Jordan
                                    Barrett

                                    Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                                    Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                                      Smith, Christie & someone new

                                      Time to move on from TJ & Weber

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                                      #1257

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Agree with the main point of that rugbypass article that it's time to get some new blood in at halfback

                                      Smith, Christie & someone new

                                      And there are plenty of tests left to develop that 3rd halfback before the RWC, and beyond 2023.

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                                      • C cgrant

                                        On pure current form, the AB team could be :

                                        De Groot
                                        ST
                                        Ofa T
                                        Sangster
                                        Lord
                                        Ioane
                                        Papali'i
                                        Sotutu
                                        Ratima
                                        Perofeta
                                        Clarke
                                        TUJ
                                        Ioane
                                        Jordan
                                        Barrett

                                        Sub : Eklund, Ross, Newell, Vaa'i, Savea, Fakatava, Mo'unga, B. Sullivan

                                        Too many youngsters in there, so it won't happen, of course.

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                                        Bones
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1258

                                        @cgrant pretty hard to justify Barrett at fullback on form but otherwise good...

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                          Dalton.

                                          Go all in.

                                          I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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                                          #1259

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                          Dalton.

                                          Go all in.

                                          I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

                                          Taine had his moments, but am not sure the two are comparable.

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