All Blacks 2022
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't know who Penrith's defence coach is but surely the NZRU can afford to poach?
Their entire game is built over their ability to pin teams in their own end with linespeed and hard shoulders is so impressive
I feel I'm qualified to comment here having not seen Penrith play for at least a decade - that sounds like a recipe for a redcardfest.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't know who Penrith's defence coach is but surely the NZRU can afford to poach?
Their entire game is built over their ability to pin teams in their own end with linespeed and hard shoulders is so impressive
I feel I'm qualified to comment here having not seen Penrith play for at least a decade - that sounds like a recipe for a redcardfest.
And yet they are defending premiers and haven't lost a game in yonks.
Solid input as always -
A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't know who Penrith's defence coach is but surely the NZRU can afford to poach?
Their entire game is built over their ability to pin teams in their own end with linespeed and hard shoulders is so impressive
I feel I'm qualified to comment here having not seen Penrith play for at least a decade - that sounds like a recipe for a redcardfest.
And yet they are defending premiers and haven't lost a game in yonks.
Solid input as always@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't know who Penrith's defence coach is but surely the NZRU can afford to poach?
Their entire game is built over their ability to pin teams in their own end with linespeed and hard shoulders is so impressive
I feel I'm qualified to comment here having not seen Penrith play for at least a decade - that sounds like a recipe for a redcardfest.
And yet they are defending premiers and haven't lost a game in yonks.
Solid input as alwaysHappy to help
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A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things. -
@mariner4life canes fans in 3...2...1...
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life canes fans in 3...2...1...
Fuck em
Their team and players are shit
You'll note fuck all Chiefs players
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Just watching some of the Super Rugby games, I've been impressed by how many players have obviously been working on their game - the Blues in particular. Christie, Ofa, Papili spring to mind but also the likes of Tupou Vaa'i, Lord, Nankivell, TUJ, and many others. Even Julian Savea.
Perhaps it's just me, but there just seems to be a lot more players sticking their hands up, showing hunger and real signs of improvement rather than playing to the previous seasons level. Just hope it translates into similar improvements at Test level
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A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things.@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things.Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.
Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.
Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things.Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.
Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.
Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things.Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.
Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.
Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...
Ugh...
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
So who’s captain if not Cane?
He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?
God fuck no
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@Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?
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A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things.@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
A loose head (can scrum.and run)
ST
Ofa
Lord
Whitelock
Akira
Cane
Sotutu
Smith
Barrett
Clark
RYS
RI
Reece
JordanColes
A Hodgeman
A tight head
T Vaa'i
A Savea
Christie
Mounga
J BarrettCane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest
If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
And we're gonna run and bash things.Good selection, but I wouldn't have RTS (assume you made a typo) in the team until he has a few more games under his belt. Be good to have him in the squad though to get experience as he seems a real prospect.
I think Foster will go with Goodhue at 12 and QT as backup. Agree with Cane, though it's a bit hard on Papalii, as we seem to play better with a fully-firing Sam.
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Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.
Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.
