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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #1229

    A loose head (can scrum.and run)
    ST
    Ofa
    Lord
    Whitelock
    Akira
    Cane
    Sotutu
    Smith
    Barrett
    Clark
    RYS
    RI
    Reece
    Jordan

    Coles
    A Hodgeman
    A tight head
    T Vaa'i
    A Savea
    Christie
    Mounga
    J Barrett

    Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

    If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
    And we're gonna run and bash things.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

      I don't know who Penrith's defence coach is but surely the NZRU can afford to poach?

      Their entire game is built over their ability to pin teams in their own end with linespeed and hard shoulders is so impressive

      I feel I'm qualified to comment here having not seen Penrith play for at least a decade - that sounds like a recipe for a redcardfest.

      And yet they are defending premiers and haven't lost a game in yonks.
      Solid input as always

      BonesB Offline
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      Bones
      wrote on last edited by
      #1230

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

      I don't know who Penrith's defence coach is but surely the NZRU can afford to poach?

      Their entire game is built over their ability to pin teams in their own end with linespeed and hard shoulders is so impressive

      I feel I'm qualified to comment here having not seen Penrith play for at least a decade - that sounds like a recipe for a redcardfest.

      And yet they are defending premiers and haven't lost a game in yonks.
      Solid input as always

      Happy to help

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        A loose head (can scrum.and run)
        ST
        Ofa
        Lord
        Whitelock
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Barrett
        Clark
        RYS
        RI
        Reece
        Jordan

        Coles
        A Hodgeman
        A tight head
        T Vaa'i
        A Savea
        Christie
        Mounga
        J Barrett

        Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

        If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
        And we're gonna run and bash things.

        BonesB Offline
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        Bones
        wrote on last edited by
        #1231

        @mariner4life canes fans in 3...2...1...

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        • BonesB Bones

          @mariner4life canes fans in 3...2...1...

          mariner4lifeM Offline
          mariner4lifeM Offline
          mariner4life
          wrote on last edited by
          #1232

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

          @mariner4life canes fans in 3...2...1...

          Fuck em

          Their team and players are shit

          You'll note fuck all Chiefs players

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          • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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            Victor Meldrew
            wrote on last edited by
            #1233

            Just watching some of the Super Rugby games, I've been impressed by how many players have obviously been working on their game - the Blues in particular. Christie, Ofa, Papili spring to mind but also the likes of Tupou Vaa'i, Lord, Nankivell, TUJ, and many others. Even Julian Savea.

            Perhaps it's just me, but there just seems to be a lot more players sticking their hands up, showing hunger and real signs of improvement rather than playing to the previous seasons level. Just hope it translates into similar improvements at Test level

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              A loose head (can scrum.and run)
              ST
              Ofa
              Lord
              Whitelock
              Akira
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Barrett
              Clark
              RYS
              RI
              Reece
              Jordan

              Coles
              A Hodgeman
              A tight head
              T Vaa'i
              A Savea
              Christie
              Mounga
              J Barrett

              Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

              If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
              And we're gonna run and bash things.

              No QuarterN Offline
              No QuarterN Offline
              No Quarter
              wrote on last edited by
              #1234

              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

              A loose head (can scrum.and run)
              ST
              Ofa
              Lord
              Whitelock
              Akira
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Barrett
              Clark
              RYS
              RI
              Reece
              Jordan

              Coles
              A Hodgeman
              A tight head
              T Vaa'i
              A Savea
              Christie
              Mounga
              J Barrett

              Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

              If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
              And we're gonna run and bash things.

              Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.

              Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.

              Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                A loose head (can scrum.and run)
                ST
                Ofa
                Lord
                Whitelock
                Akira
                Cane
                Sotutu
                Smith
                Barrett
                Clark
                RYS
                RI
                Reece
                Jordan

                Coles
                A Hodgeman
                A tight head
                T Vaa'i
                A Savea
                Christie
                Mounga
                J Barrett

                Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

                If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
                And we're gonna run and bash things.

                Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.

                Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.

                Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...

                canefanC Offline
                canefanC Offline
                canefan
                wrote on last edited by
                #1235

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                A loose head (can scrum.and run)
                ST
                Ofa
                Lord
                Whitelock
                Akira
                Cane
                Sotutu
                Smith
                Barrett
                Clark
                RYS
                RI
                Reece
                Jordan

                Coles
                A Hodgeman
                A tight head
                T Vaa'i
                A Savea
                Christie
                Mounga
                J Barrett

                Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

                If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
                And we're gonna run and bash things.

                Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.

                Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.

                Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...

                Ugh...

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                • KirwanK Offline
                  KirwanK Offline
                  Kirwan
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1236

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    So who’s captain if not Cane?

                    He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                    DuluthD Offline
                    DuluthD Offline
                    Duluth
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1237

                    @Kirwan or Whitelock

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                    • ToddyT Online
                      ToddyT Online
                      Toddy
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1238

                      Coles (if he's playing well) or AS.

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                      • ToddyT Online
                        ToddyT Online
                        Toddy
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1239

                        Is Luke Jacobson Maori? Might be his only shot at higher honours this year.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          So who’s captain if not Cane?

                          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                          mariner4lifeM Offline
                          mariner4lifeM Offline
                          mariner4life
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1240

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          So who’s captain if not Cane?

                          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                          God fuck no

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                          • BonesB Offline
                            BonesB Offline
                            Bones
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1241

                            Smith, with Coles or whitelock taking over when he's subbed

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              Smith, with Coles or whitelock taking over when he's subbed

                              TimT Away
                              TimT Away
                              Tim
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                              #1242

                              @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

                                BonesB Offline
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                                Bones
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1243

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

                                Yes

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Kirwan or Whitelock

                                  KirwanK Offline
                                  KirwanK Offline
                                  Kirwan
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1244

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan or Whitelock

                                  Probably the safest pick

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    A loose head (can scrum.and run)
                                    ST
                                    Ofa
                                    Lord
                                    Whitelock
                                    Akira
                                    Cane
                                    Sotutu
                                    Smith
                                    Barrett
                                    Clark
                                    RYS
                                    RI
                                    Reece
                                    Jordan

                                    Coles
                                    A Hodgeman
                                    A tight head
                                    T Vaa'i
                                    A Savea
                                    Christie
                                    Mounga
                                    J Barrett

                                    Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

                                    If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
                                    And we're gonna run and bash things.

                                    Victor MeldrewV Offline
                                    Victor MeldrewV Offline
                                    Victor Meldrew
                                    wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
                                    #1245

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    A loose head (can scrum.and run)
                                    ST
                                    Ofa
                                    Lord
                                    Whitelock
                                    Akira
                                    Cane
                                    Sotutu
                                    Smith
                                    Barrett
                                    Clark
                                    RYS
                                    RI
                                    Reece
                                    Jordan

                                    Coles
                                    A Hodgeman
                                    A tight head
                                    T Vaa'i
                                    A Savea
                                    Christie
                                    Mounga
                                    J Barrett

                                    Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

                                    If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
                                    And we're gonna run and bash things.

                                    Good selection, but I wouldn't have RTS (assume you made a typo) in the team until he has a few more games under his belt. Be good to have him in the squad though to get experience as he seems a real prospect.

                                    I think Foster will go with Goodhue at 12 and QT as backup. Agree with Cane, though it's a bit hard on Papalii, as we seem to play better with a fully-firing Sam.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

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                                      ACT Crusader
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1246

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                        KiwiMurphK Offline
                                        KiwiMurphK Offline
                                        KiwiMurph
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1247

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                        He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                        Dalton.

                                        Go all in.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                          Dalton.

                                          Go all in.

                                          KirwanK Offline
                                          KirwanK Offline
                                          Kirwan
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1248

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                          Dalton.

                                          Go all in.

                                          I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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