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All Blacks 2022

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  • Victor MeldrewV Away
    Victor MeldrewV Away
    Victor Meldrew
    wrote on last edited by
    #1233

    Just watching some of the Super Rugby games, I've been impressed by how many players have obviously been working on their game - the Blues in particular. Christie, Ofa, Papili spring to mind but also the likes of Tupou Vaa'i, Lord, Nankivell, TUJ, and many others. Even Julian Savea.

    Perhaps it's just me, but there just seems to be a lot more players sticking their hands up, showing hunger and real signs of improvement rather than playing to the previous seasons level. Just hope it translates into similar improvements at Test level

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      A loose head (can scrum.and run)
      ST
      Ofa
      Lord
      Whitelock
      Akira
      Cane
      Sotutu
      Smith
      Barrett
      Clark
      RYS
      RI
      Reece
      Jordan

      Coles
      A Hodgeman
      A tight head
      T Vaa'i
      A Savea
      Christie
      Mounga
      J Barrett

      Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

      If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
      And we're gonna run and bash things.

      No QuarterN Offline
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      No Quarter
      wrote on last edited by
      #1234

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

      A loose head (can scrum.and run)
      ST
      Ofa
      Lord
      Whitelock
      Akira
      Cane
      Sotutu
      Smith
      Barrett
      Clark
      RYS
      RI
      Reece
      Jordan

      Coles
      A Hodgeman
      A tight head
      T Vaa'i
      A Savea
      Christie
      Mounga
      J Barrett

      Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

      If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
      And we're gonna run and bash things.

      Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.

      Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.

      Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

        A loose head (can scrum.and run)
        ST
        Ofa
        Lord
        Whitelock
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Barrett
        Clark
        RYS
        RI
        Reece
        Jordan

        Coles
        A Hodgeman
        A tight head
        T Vaa'i
        A Savea
        Christie
        Mounga
        J Barrett

        Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

        If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
        And we're gonna run and bash things.

        Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.

        Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.

        Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...

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        canefan
        wrote on last edited by
        #1235

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

        A loose head (can scrum.and run)
        ST
        Ofa
        Lord
        Whitelock
        Akira
        Cane
        Sotutu
        Smith
        Barrett
        Clark
        RYS
        RI
        Reece
        Jordan

        Coles
        A Hodgeman
        A tight head
        T Vaa'i
        A Savea
        Christie
        Mounga
        J Barrett

        Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

        If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
        And we're gonna run and bash things.

        Our top team is good enough to beat anyone, just need to play to our strengths and bash shit out of the opposition in close.

        Only change I'd make is Jordie starting as he's much stronger defensively than Jordan. Jordan to the wing with Reece or Clarke to the bench. Otherwise that looks the best use of our resources.

        Of course the coaches will likely start Ardie, chuck Frizzel at 6, Codie at hooker, Havili in the midfield and probably Bridge on the wing...

        Ugh...

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        • KirwanK Offline
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          Kirwan
          wrote on last edited by
          #1236

          So who’s captain if not Cane?

          He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            So who’s captain if not Cane?

            He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

            DuluthD Offline
            DuluthD Offline
            Duluth
            wrote on last edited by
            #1237

            @Kirwan or Whitelock

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            • ToddyT Offline
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              Toddy
              wrote on last edited by
              #1238

              Coles (if he's playing well) or AS.

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              • ToddyT Offline
                ToddyT Offline
                Toddy
                wrote on last edited by
                #1239

                Is Luke Jacobson Maori? Might be his only shot at higher honours this year.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                  mariner4lifeM Offline
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                  mariner4life
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1240

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                  God fuck no

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                  • BonesB Online
                    BonesB Online
                    Bones
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1241

                    Smith, with Coles or whitelock taking over when he's subbed

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Smith, with Coles or whitelock taking over when he's subbed

                      TimT Away
                      TimT Away
                      Tim
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1242

                      @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

                        BonesB Online
                        BonesB Online
                        Bones
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                        #1243

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bones Do you think Smith will still be fast enough to start at halfback after another 18 months?

                        Yes

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Kirwan or Whitelock

                          KirwanK Offline
                          KirwanK Offline
                          Kirwan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1244

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kirwan or Whitelock

                          Probably the safest pick

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            A loose head (can scrum.and run)
                            ST
                            Ofa
                            Lord
                            Whitelock
                            Akira
                            Cane
                            Sotutu
                            Smith
                            Barrett
                            Clark
                            RYS
                            RI
                            Reece
                            Jordan

                            Coles
                            A Hodgeman
                            A tight head
                            T Vaa'i
                            A Savea
                            Christie
                            Mounga
                            J Barrett

                            Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

                            If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
                            And we're gonna run and bash things.

                            Victor MeldrewV Away
                            Victor MeldrewV Away
                            Victor Meldrew
                            wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
                            #1245

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                            A loose head (can scrum.and run)
                            ST
                            Ofa
                            Lord
                            Whitelock
                            Akira
                            Cane
                            Sotutu
                            Smith
                            Barrett
                            Clark
                            RYS
                            RI
                            Reece
                            Jordan

                            Coles
                            A Hodgeman
                            A tight head
                            T Vaa'i
                            A Savea
                            Christie
                            Mounga
                            J Barrett

                            Cane over Papalii only because we need a bit of experience in the pack, and his form to experience quotient is the highest

                            If we are wedded to individual brilliance to win games, pick the individuals with brilliance
                            And we're gonna run and bash things.

                            Good selection, but I wouldn't have RTS (assume you made a typo) in the team until he has a few more games under his belt. Be good to have him in the squad though to get experience as he seems a real prospect.

                            I think Foster will go with Goodhue at 12 and QT as backup. Agree with Cane, though it's a bit hard on Papalii, as we seem to play better with a fully-firing Sam.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

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                              #1246

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                              Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                KiwiMurphK Online
                                KiwiMurphK Online
                                KiwiMurph
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1247

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                Dalton.

                                Go all in.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                  Dalton.

                                  Go all in.

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                                  Kirwan
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1248

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  So who’s captain if not Cane?

                                  He’s getting outplayed week to week by Dalton. Ardie Savea?

                                  Dalton.

                                  Go all in.

                                  I flirted with that idea but then had Taine Randall flashbacks.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                    MN5M Online
                                    MN5M Online
                                    MN5
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                                    #1249

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                    Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                    Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

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                                      #1250

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                      Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                      Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                                      He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                                        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                                        MN5M Online
                                        MN5M Online
                                        MN5
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                                        #1251

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                        Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                        Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                                        He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                                        Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                          Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                                          He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                                          Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

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                                          #1252

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Morgan Parra and Ruan Pienaar are two players that immediately come to mind as being able to play halfback and 1st 5. However, they are halfbacks who can play in another position, not the other way around. We've talked before about converting loose forwards into hookers but that process started once those players left school so they learnt the nuances of the new position before playing pro rugby.

                                          Freddy Michalak was very good at both positions also.

                                          Let’s not forget the postman either, Wellingtons own Jon Preston. Always delivered ( just like Gavin Larsen, the other Postman )

                                          He will be able to dine out on his SA 1996 performance forever

                                          Quite rightly too. What a great Wellingtonian.

                                          Cantab

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