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All Blacks 2022

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    Maybe the ABs should make the upgrade to Tom Coventry next year.

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      With Moody out, I guess the LH spot will be given to Bower. Does he have the necessary strength and technique to neutralize Tagh Furlong ? I have many doubts about it. Hodgman would be destroyed by the big Irishman at scrum time, so would Norris. So what are the options left ? Karl T ? He can scrummage but against the Oirish, you may expect to make a lot of tackles, so he is clearly not the best at this. De Groot ? I have yet to see him against a first class opposition. Despite his impressive size, I think he punches well under his weight. Due to a lack of mongrel ? Ross ? He did more than holding his own against Tupou but he won't get the same leniency from the ref at scrum time. So who's left ? I could see a starting combo of Ofa T (though he is better THP) and Laulala, with Hodgman (or Bower) and Newell on the bench.

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      @cgrant Tbh the Irish scrum isn't that strong and Furlong has been dominated by his opposites this year. The Bok scrum will be the real test imo, I think we will hold our own against the Irish and possibly even get the better of them.

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      • TimT Tim

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

        If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

        At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

        He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

        On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

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        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

        If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

        At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

        He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

        On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

        Someone needs to email this to Foster, this is a well written article which makes total sense.

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        • TimT Tim

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

          If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

          At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

          He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

          On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

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          antipodean
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          @Tim I must admit I had written Eklund off given he couldn't start ahead of Parsons. Parsons ffs. He's proven some doubters wrong this year.

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            Eklund playing for the Māori will give us a good idea if he has the game for the next level. He is a small hooker.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Eklund playing for the Māori will give us a good idea if he has the game for the next level. He is a small hooker.

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              @Bovidae yeah, a bit small, and throwing a bit dodgy. Keeps getting better though.

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                Tim
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                Judging from the journalist comments etc seems that there will be no young props in the squad.

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

                  If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

                  At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

                  He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

                  On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

                  Someone needs to email this to Foster, this is a well written article which makes total sense.

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                  @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

                  If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

                  At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

                  He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

                  On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

                  Someone needs to email this to Foster, this is a well written article which makes total sense.

                  Article lost credibility when it suggested that Pat T needed to come back into the side.

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                  • TimT Away
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                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                    Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                      Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                      Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

                      …..because there’s every chance he’s hit his ceiling and it’s all downhill from here.

                      Whitelock and Retallick have combined for over 200 test matches and performed magnificently but how long can they go on for ?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                        Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

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                        #1789

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                        Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

                        Can I ask what indicators?

                        I know he didn’t go that well last year but didn’t really get a chance so far this year.
                        I’d give him a couple of games at least to make judgements.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

                          If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

                          At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

                          He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

                          On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

                          Someone needs to email this to Foster, this is a well written article which makes total sense.

                          Article lost credibility when it suggested that Pat T needed to come back into the side.

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                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/re-building-the-all-blacks-pack-to-reverse-the-last-result-against-ireland/

                          If you want New Zealand’s best performing scrum, it is an all-Blues front row you need with Hodgman/Laulala, Eklund and Tuungafasi. They have the highest dominant scrum percentage of all the Kiwi teams at 31 per cent while conceding the fewest scrum penalties.

                          At hooker, the option that would give the All Blacks the most punch in defence is Blues rake Kurt Eklund, which is a bold call as few are likely to give him a shot.

                          He has made 112 tackles at a 93 percent completion rate, with just nine misses whilst generating eight turnovers, six of them at the breakdown from 22 ruck contests. He has only given away two penalties from those 22 ruck contests.

                          On every defensive metric, Eklund has been better than incumbent Codie Taylor and adds turnover-generating potential.

                          Someone needs to email this to Foster, this is a well written article which makes total sense.

                          Article lost credibility when it suggested that Pat T needed to come back into the side.

                          One of the most frustrating AB's ever, for me. Love what he's done with the Blues captaincy and their renaissance and while he's played a handful of good games in Black, he's just so inconsistent. I think Romano's probably a better bet.than Pat T

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                          • TimT Tim

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                            Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                            Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

                            I think he has to be given one more chance.
                            One of the greatest ever players for the All Blacks and I am hoping last year was just a bad year.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                              Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

                              Can I ask what indicators?

                              I know he didn’t go that well last year but didn’t really get a chance so far this year.
                              I’d give him a couple of games at least to make judgements.

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                              Tim
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                              @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

                              That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

                                Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

                                I think he has to be given one more chance.
                                One of the greatest ever players for the All Blacks and I am hoping last year was just a bad year.

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                                Tim
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                                @Frank I am hoping too, but he showed nothing in about 8 tests last year.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Frank I am hoping too, but he showed nothing in about 8 tests last year.

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Frank I am hoping too, but he showed nothing in about 8 tests last year.

                                  Agreed.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

                                    That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

                                    That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

                                    It would have been pretty hard to produce a quality performance for the ABs in 2020 when he wasn’t around, a kind of dumb statement.
                                    Yes, he wasn’t at his best last year after losing bulk in Japan.
                                    Was just starting to hit his straps before that thumb break.
                                    He may well not come back to previous standards but writing him off right now seems OTT.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

                                      That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

                                      It would have been pretty hard to produce a quality performance for the ABs in 2020 when he wasn’t around, a kind of dumb statement.
                                      Yes, he wasn’t at his best last year after losing bulk in Japan.
                                      Was just starting to hit his straps before that thumb break.
                                      He may well not come back to previous standards but writing him off right now seems OTT.

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                                      Tim
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                                      @Crucial you should write a new poem for him.

                                      He had many tests last year and he was shit.

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                                        Tim
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                                        Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                                          @Tim Pita Alatini the worst AB 12 in living memory? That's harsh he had some good moments in 2000/01.

                                          Worst AB 12 in living memory would be guys like Mark Mayerhofler, Benson Stanley, Mark Ranby etc

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