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All Blacks 2022

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  • TimT Tim

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

    Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

    Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

    I think he has to be given one more chance.
    One of the greatest ever players for the All Blacks and I am hoping last year was just a bad year.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

      Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

      Can I ask what indicators?

      I know he didn’t go that well last year but didn’t really get a chance so far this year.
      I’d give him a couple of games at least to make judgements.

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      @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

      That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

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      • F Frank

        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128749877/all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-to-return-from-broken-thumb-for-chiefs-against-fijian-drua

        Will he actually do anything to justify selection? All indicators so no.

        I think he has to be given one more chance.
        One of the greatest ever players for the All Blacks and I am hoping last year was just a bad year.

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        @Frank I am hoping too, but he showed nothing in about 8 tests last year.

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        • TimT Tim

          @Frank I am hoping too, but he showed nothing in about 8 tests last year.

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          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Frank I am hoping too, but he showed nothing in about 8 tests last year.

          Agreed.

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          • TimT Tim

            @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

            That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

            That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

            It would have been pretty hard to produce a quality performance for the ABs in 2020 when he wasn’t around, a kind of dumb statement.
            Yes, he wasn’t at his best last year after losing bulk in Japan.
            Was just starting to hit his straps before that thumb break.
            He may well not come back to previous standards but writing him off right now seems OTT.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Crucial you can, and you should, he hasn't produced a quality performance since 2019.

              That is a very long time, and this year he was out played by Goodhue and others.

              It would have been pretty hard to produce a quality performance for the ABs in 2020 when he wasn’t around, a kind of dumb statement.
              Yes, he wasn’t at his best last year after losing bulk in Japan.
              Was just starting to hit his straps before that thumb break.
              He may well not come back to previous standards but writing him off right now seems OTT.

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              Tim
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              @Crucial you should write a new poem for him.

              He had many tests last year and he was shit.

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                Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                • TimT Tim

                  Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                  @Tim Pita Alatini the worst AB 12 in living memory? That's harsh he had some good moments in 2000/01.

                  Worst AB 12 in living memory would be guys like Mark Mayerhofler, Benson Stanley, Mark Ranby etc

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Tim Pita Alatini the worst AB 12 in living memory? That's harsh he had some good moments in 2000/01.

                    Worst AB 12 in living memory would be guys like Mark Mayerhofler, Benson Stanley, Mark Ranby etc

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                    @KiwiMurph Mayerhofler, definitely, but Alatini was terrible.

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                      i remember alatini being pretty good in that 2000 "game of the century"

                      edit: just re watched the first 6mins...bloody hell that was enjoyable

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Tim Pita Alatini the worst AB 12 in living memory? That's harsh he had some good moments in 2000/01.

                        Worst AB 12 in living memory would be guys like Mark Mayerhofler, Benson Stanley, Mark Ranby etc

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                        @KiwiMurph wasnt Ranby the player 'foodbill' was coined for?

                        Ha, I do hate when we call someone the 'worst AB' though, as above, I thought Alatini was pretty good in the 2000/01 period.

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                          Hard to attribute the Blues scrum dominance to Eklund when he's surrounded by 4(!) All Black props. But he's been playing well and he's hungry, he should definitely be in the picture. I've been a huge fan of Taylor but his form just isn't there at the moment.

                          Taukei'aho is the best hooker in the comp, it would be crazy not to start him. The tight five desperately needs spark. You can't simply fill the pack with players that have experience but lack form and think they will deliver when it matters. The second row will probably have to be experienced, so start the tyro at 2.

                          Loosehead is a problem. It would be great to see someone stand up in these last few games because it's wide open honestly. Bower might be the best scrummager so looks most likely to get the tick at 1.

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                            I can't see Eklund getting selected over Taylor,ST and Coles.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              I can't see Eklund getting selected over Taylor,ST and Coles.

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                              @Chris Look who wrote the Rugbypass article. The same sports writer who writes bs all the time.

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                              • F Frye

                                Hard to attribute the Blues scrum dominance to Eklund when he's surrounded by 4(!) All Black props. But he's been playing well and he's hungry, he should definitely be in the picture. I've been a huge fan of Taylor but his form just isn't there at the moment.

                                Taukei'aho is the best hooker in the comp, it would be crazy not to start him. The tight five desperately needs spark. You can't simply fill the pack with players that have experience but lack form and think they will deliver when it matters. The second row will probably have to be experienced, so start the tyro at 2.

                                Loosehead is a problem. It would be great to see someone stand up in these last few games because it's wide open honestly. Bower might be the best scrummager so looks most likely to get the tick at 1.

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                                @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Taukei'aho is the best hooker in the comp, it would be crazy not to start him.

                                Fuck yeah.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Chris Look who wrote the Rugbypass article. The same sports writer who writes bs all the time.

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                                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Chris Look who wrote the Rugbypass article. The same sports writer who writes bs all the time.

                                  Just spotted that

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    I can't see Eklund getting selected over Taylor,ST and Coles.

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                                    @Chris I wouldn't, but if Coles is out then he would be the next choice.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @Chris I wouldn't, but if Coles is out then he would be the next choice.

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                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris I wouldn't, but if Coles is out then he would be the next choice.

                                      Yeah I think over Amua yes

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

                                        Shit take from you

                                        Alatini is hugely underrated

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

                                          Shit take from you

                                          Alatini is hugely underrated

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                                          Tim
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                                          @mariner4life My best friend marked him in Auckland 1st XV rugby, so maybe I am a little biased over that!

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