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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Tim Pita Alatini the worst AB 12 in living memory? That's harsh he had some good moments in 2000/01.

    Worst AB 12 in living memory would be guys like Mark Mayerhofler, Benson Stanley, Mark Ranby etc

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    @KiwiMurph Mayerhofler, definitely, but Alatini was terrible.

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      Kiwiwomble
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      #1800

      i remember alatini being pretty good in that 2000 "game of the century"

      edit: just re watched the first 6mins...bloody hell that was enjoyable

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Tim Pita Alatini the worst AB 12 in living memory? That's harsh he had some good moments in 2000/01.

        Worst AB 12 in living memory would be guys like Mark Mayerhofler, Benson Stanley, Mark Ranby etc

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        @KiwiMurph wasnt Ranby the player 'foodbill' was coined for?

        Ha, I do hate when we call someone the 'worst AB' though, as above, I thought Alatini was pretty good in the 2000/01 period.

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          Hard to attribute the Blues scrum dominance to Eklund when he's surrounded by 4(!) All Black props. But he's been playing well and he's hungry, he should definitely be in the picture. I've been a huge fan of Taylor but his form just isn't there at the moment.

          Taukei'aho is the best hooker in the comp, it would be crazy not to start him. The tight five desperately needs spark. You can't simply fill the pack with players that have experience but lack form and think they will deliver when it matters. The second row will probably have to be experienced, so start the tyro at 2.

          Loosehead is a problem. It would be great to see someone stand up in these last few games because it's wide open honestly. Bower might be the best scrummager so looks most likely to get the tick at 1.

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            I can't see Eklund getting selected over Taylor,ST and Coles.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              I can't see Eklund getting selected over Taylor,ST and Coles.

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              @Chris Look who wrote the Rugbypass article. The same sports writer who writes bs all the time.

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              • F Frye

                Hard to attribute the Blues scrum dominance to Eklund when he's surrounded by 4(!) All Black props. But he's been playing well and he's hungry, he should definitely be in the picture. I've been a huge fan of Taylor but his form just isn't there at the moment.

                Taukei'aho is the best hooker in the comp, it would be crazy not to start him. The tight five desperately needs spark. You can't simply fill the pack with players that have experience but lack form and think they will deliver when it matters. The second row will probably have to be experienced, so start the tyro at 2.

                Loosehead is a problem. It would be great to see someone stand up in these last few games because it's wide open honestly. Bower might be the best scrummager so looks most likely to get the tick at 1.

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                @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                Taukei'aho is the best hooker in the comp, it would be crazy not to start him.

                Fuck yeah.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Chris Look who wrote the Rugbypass article. The same sports writer who writes bs all the time.

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                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Chris Look who wrote the Rugbypass article. The same sports writer who writes bs all the time.

                  Just spotted that

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    I can't see Eklund getting selected over Taylor,ST and Coles.

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                    @Chris I wouldn't, but if Coles is out then he would be the next choice.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @Chris I wouldn't, but if Coles is out then he would be the next choice.

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Chris I wouldn't, but if Coles is out then he would be the next choice.

                      Yeah I think over Amua yes

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

                        Shit take from you

                        Alatini is hugely underrated

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

                          Shit take from you

                          Alatini is hugely underrated

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                          @mariner4life My best friend marked him in Auckland 1st XV rugby, so maybe I am a little biased over that!

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @mariner4life My best friend marked him in Auckland 1st XV rugby, so maybe I am a little biased over that!

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @mariner4life My best friend marked him in Auckland 1st XV rugby, so maybe I am a little biased over that!

                            He played 13 more tests than Lowen, Steinmetz, Ranby and King managed between them.

                            Show some respect Timothy.

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                              On LH much harder. Karl best scrummager, but signed for France. Hodgman superb around field/lineouts but not top level test standard in scrum. De Groot and Bower seem a bit in between. Ross seems good in scrum and pretty useful round field. Norris similar but strengths the other way around.

                              You've got to think he got the word to leave the year before the RWC

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                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                              On LH much harder. Karl best scrummager, but signed for France. Hodgman superb around field/lineouts but not top level test standard in scrum. De Groot and Bower seem a bit in between. Ross seems good in scrum and pretty useful round field. Norris similar but strengths the other way around.

                              You've got to think he got the word to leave the year before the RWC

                              He's worth more now...

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                                Maybe I should put more weight on the fact I once tackled sir Richie at u13’s 🤔

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Here's food for thought, RTS is an expert stepper, but is he better than Pita Alatini, who was the worst AB 12 in living memory. He was an expert stepper

                                  Gonna disagree with that. Thought he awesome in the 2001 Bled. Got us back in ther match. But Ron Cribb couldn't tackle.

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                                    How many of us did @Tim hook with that Alatini bait?

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      Maybe I should put more weight on the fact I once tackled sir Richie at u13’s 🤔

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Maybe I should put more weight on the fact I once tackled sir Richie at u13’s 🤔

                                      Yeah, well, I once avoided even subbing on the field when Lauaki was wreaking havoc against us in Tauranga 7's.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Eklund playing for the Māori will give us a good idea if he has the game for the next level. He is a small hooker.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Eklund playing for the Māori will give us a good idea if he has the game for the next level. He is a small hooker.

                                        If one of Taylor, Sami, Coles got injured, I’d bring in Eklund ahead of Aumua.

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                                          pakman
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                                          Is Gamble eligible for ABs?

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