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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

    Personally, I'd pick Jack Goodhue at 12, but he's really been selected as a centre so maybe they'll ask him to specialize..

    RTS at 12 with Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

    RTS is a big risk against the Irish midfield. Might come off, might wreck his career. Don't think the coaches will throw him in the deep end

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    might wreck his career

    Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

    I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

      Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

      You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

      He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

      I know which of these looks better

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      Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

      I think you meant to say perfect example of a player not good enough for the ABs below one who earned an ABs spot. There's something in that mullay...

      Well he was 17 at the time. Now he’s an adult he’s the Bay’s most recent AB so I’m happy about that. And we were more than happy to lend his Bay developed expertise to the Highlanders too.

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      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

      Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

      You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

      He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

      I know which of these looks better

      alt text

      alt text

      Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

      I think you meant to say perfect example of a player not good enough for the ABs below one who earned an ABs spot. There's something in that mullay...

      Well he was 17 at the time. Now he’s an adult he’s the Bay’s most recent AB so I’m happy about that. And we were more than happy to lend his Bay developed expertise to the Highlanders too.

      He featured heavily in our worst looking season in a while.

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      • get stuffedG get stuffed

        Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

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        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

        🤣

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        • TimT Tim

          @Daffy-Jaffy Impact around the field is pretty low. Just not good enough.

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          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Daffy-Jaffy Impact around the field is pretty low. Just not good enough.

          He has bloody good last year. May be carrying an injury (knee?) or just hasn’t pounded pavements enough?

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            Second five is the biggest issue IMO. I really wanted to see TUJ in there, he's the only one in NZ rugby that continuously gets over the gain line.

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            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

            Second five is the biggest issue IMO. I really wanted to see TUJ in there, he's the only one in NZ rugby that continuously gets over the gain line.

            Could he apprentice?

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @MrDenmore said in All Blacks 2022:

              Only one specialist blindside in Akira Ioane? Think they’re going to miss Blackadder’s versatility.

              Nah, plenty of blindside options with Papali’i or Vaa’i or Barrett

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              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

              @MrDenmore said in All Blacks 2022:

              Only one specialist blindside in Akira Ioane? Think they’re going to miss Blackadder’s versatility.

              Nah, plenty of blindside options with Papali’i or Vaa’i or Barrett

              PGS covers 6?

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                Those props look picked for set piece vs Ireland.

                Backs look a hell of a lot better.

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                Those props look picked for set piece vs Ireland.

                Backs look a hell of a lot better.

                Seems they only were prepared to carry one ‘all rounder’, so Angus in. Tough on Hodgman and De Groot.

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                • get stuffedG get stuffed

                  Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

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                  @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                  Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                    Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                    Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                    Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                      Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

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                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                      Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

                      Yeah, but Ritchie wasn't captain then.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                        Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                        Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

                        Yeah, but Ritchie wasn't captain then.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Ritchie

                        You sir, are on a fishing expedition today.

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                          I see that Foster has acknowledged that Jacobson was unlucky as he has been forced to play in all 3 loose forward positions for the Chiefs. On one hand that demonstrated his versatility, but he hasn't being playing in his preferred positions (6 or 8 ) in recent weeks. If he was at no.8 in Chch, the Chiefs would have got something out of those 1st half 5 m scrums.

                          PGS needs to play to his physical size because that wasn't the first time he's not scored when over the goal line.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            might wreck his career

                            Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

                            I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            might wreck his career

                            Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

                            I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

                            Not too sure what QT has to do with it., but yeah, you right. I shouldn't have used "might wreck his career".

                            Would have been better if I had said "there's a risk his inexperience might be exploited by Ireland, he gets pulled early, he has a brain-fade which costs us the game, the selectors lose confidence in him and it seriously impacts his confidence & future selection"

                            That's better I think.

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                            • Dan54D Dan54

                              @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                              Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

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                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                              Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

                              Papalii at 6, Cane at 7, Savea at 8 = three opensides - what could possibly go wrong?

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                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                                Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

                                Papalii at 6, Cane at 7, Savea at 8 = three opensides - what could possibly go wrong?

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                                @Frank Same thing that the Hurricanes tried against the Brumbies. Made it easy to shut down Savea, with no good ball carrying alternatives.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  might wreck his career

                                  Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

                                  I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

                                  Not too sure what QT has to do with it., but yeah, you right. I shouldn't have used "might wreck his career".

                                  Would have been better if I had said "there's a risk his inexperience might be exploited by Ireland, he gets pulled early, he has a brain-fade which costs us the game, the selectors lose confidence in him and it seriously impacts his confidence & future selection"

                                  That's better I think.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew or not. Most likely not.

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                                    When are they naming the Maori All Blacks squad?

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                                      didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?

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                                        Papalii is larger than your typical openside, and I said months ago I expected him to be used at 6 at some stage. More likely off the bench.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?

                                          Yes and he initially made the ABs as a 6

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