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  • get stuffedG get stuffed

    Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

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    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

    Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

    Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

      Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

        Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

        Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

        Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

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        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

        Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

        Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

        Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

        Yeah, but Ritchie wasn't captain then.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

          Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

          Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

          Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

          Yeah, but Ritchie wasn't captain then.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

          Ritchie

          You sir, are on a fishing expedition today.

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            I see that Foster has acknowledged that Jacobson was unlucky as he has been forced to play in all 3 loose forward positions for the Chiefs. On one hand that demonstrated his versatility, but he hasn't being playing in his preferred positions (6 or 8 ) in recent weeks. If he was at no.8 in Chch, the Chiefs would have got something out of those 1st half 5 m scrums.

            PGS needs to play to his physical size because that wasn't the first time he's not scored when over the goal line.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

              might wreck his career

              Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

              I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

              might wreck his career

              Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

              I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

              Not too sure what QT has to do with it., but yeah, you right. I shouldn't have used "might wreck his career".

              Would have been better if I had said "there's a risk his inexperience might be exploited by Ireland, he gets pulled early, he has a brain-fade which costs us the game, the selectors lose confidence in him and it seriously impacts his confidence & future selection"

              That's better I think.

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              • Dan54D Dan54

                @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

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                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

                Papalii at 6, Cane at 7, Savea at 8 = three opensides - what could possibly go wrong?

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                • F Frank

                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

                  Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.

                  Papalii at 6, Cane at 7, Savea at 8 = three opensides - what could possibly go wrong?

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                  @Frank Same thing that the Hurricanes tried against the Brumbies. Made it easy to shut down Savea, with no good ball carrying alternatives.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                    might wreck his career

                    Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.

                    I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.

                    Not too sure what QT has to do with it., but yeah, you right. I shouldn't have used "might wreck his career".

                    Would have been better if I had said "there's a risk his inexperience might be exploited by Ireland, he gets pulled early, he has a brain-fade which costs us the game, the selectors lose confidence in him and it seriously impacts his confidence & future selection"

                    That's better I think.

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                    @Victor-Meldrew or not. Most likely not.

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                      When are they naming the Maori All Blacks squad?

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                        didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?

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                        • BovidaeB Offline
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                          Papalii is larger than your typical openside, and I said months ago I expected him to be used at 6 at some stage. More likely off the bench.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                            didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?

                            Yes and he initially made the ABs as a 6

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                              Christ on a bike, how good would

                              12 Laumape

                              look right now.

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                                I could live with Dalton at 6, Sotutu at 8 and Cane at 7.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  Christ on a bike, how good would

                                  12 Laumape

                                  look right now.

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                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Christ on a bike, how good would

                                  12 Laumape

                                  look right now.

                                  Considering he did nothing at test level not very?

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                                  • D Dolamite

                                    When are they naming the Maori All Blacks squad?

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                                    @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    When are they naming the Maori All Blacks squad?

                                    Tomorrow

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

                                      Not sure Jack offers anything off the bench.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

                                      Not sure Jack offers anything off the bench.

                                      Yep. 18 tests and 17 as a starter. Start or not in the 23. QT / RTS / LF all offer more as an impact player. And there is options in terms of positional coverage too with those others.

                                      Interestingly on those 17 tests he’s started, he’s partnered with Crotty, SBW, Laumape, ALB and Ioane.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Christ on a bike, how good would

                                        12 Laumape

                                        look right now.

                                        Considering he did nothing at test level not very?

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Christ on a bike, how good would

                                        12 Laumape

                                        look right now.

                                        Considering he did nothing at test level not very?

                                        Dusruspict!

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                                          #2704

                                          Wasn’t Foster saying Papali’i could cover blindside, not really starting him? Ioane surely has the inside running to start if he keeps on going the way he’s playing.

                                          I have no doubt he could play at blindside, but i think our tactics change a bit if he starts then how we would play if Ioane starts. Quite different players.

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