All Blacks 2022
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
Papalii at 6, Cane at 7, Savea at 8 = three opensides - what could possibly go wrong?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
might wreck his career
Oh come the fuck on. That's not going to happen even if he has a bad game. He's not a fragile little mental patient. He's shown more maturity and composure than Tupaea, yet you don't have the same reservation about him.
I really can't think of any players that have had their careers wrecked recently.
Not too sure what QT has to do with it., but yeah, you right. I shouldn't have used "might wreck his career".
Would have been better if I had said "there's a risk his inexperience might be exploited by Ireland, he gets pulled early, he has a brain-fade which costs us the game, the selectors lose confidence in him and it seriously impacts his confidence & future selection"
That's better I think.
@Victor-Meldrew or not. Most likely not.
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didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
didnt Dalton start more as a 6 for the Blues?
Yes and he initially made the ABs as a 6
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Christ on a bike, how good would
12 Laumape
look right now.
Considering he did nothing at test level not very?
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.
Not sure Jack offers anything off the bench.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.
Not sure Jack offers anything off the bench.
Yep. 18 tests and 17 as a starter. Start or not in the 23. QT / RTS / LF all offer more as an impact player. And there is options in terms of positional coverage too with those others.
Interestingly on those 17 tests he’s started, he’s partnered with Crotty, SBW, Laumape, ALB and Ioane.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Christ on a bike, how good would
12 Laumape
look right now.
Considering he did nothing at test level not very?
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Christ on a bike, how good would
12 Laumape
look right now.
Considering he did nothing at test level not very?
Dusruspict!
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Wasn’t Foster saying Papali’i could cover blindside, not really starting him? Ioane surely has the inside running to start if he keeps on going the way he’s playing.
I have no doubt he could play at blindside, but i think our tactics change a bit if he starts then how we would play if Ioane starts. Quite different players.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Christ on a bike, how good would
12 Laumape
look right now.
Considering he did nothing at test level not very?
Dusruspict!
@Bones yep, he gon' run thru sone Frenchmen now cos someone somewhere dissed his name!
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Wasn’t Foster saying Papali’i could cover blindside, not really starting him? Ioane surely has the inside running to start if he keeps on going the way he’s playing.
I have no doubt he could play at blindside, but i think our tactics change a bit if he starts then how we would play if Ioane starts. Quite different players.
@ACT-Crusader DP at blind would be pretty similar to Sean O'Brien. He was pretty handy.
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I also don't really get the angst about PGS. I think he's got a lot of really good qualities we've been severely lacking. Definitely put his hand up.
@Bones I guess the issue is, this coaching group do not seem like they can get the best out of thier players, and PGS looks like his best was 6+ weeks ago, however as you say, he does have alot of really good attributes and if they can get those out of him he looks a real weapon....
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I also don't really get the angst about PGS. I think he's got a lot of really good qualities we've been severely lacking. Definitely put his hand up.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
I also don't really get the angst about PGS. I think he's got a lot of really good qualities we've been severely lacking. Definitely put his hand up.
We probably focus so much on the loose forwards because it feels like there's nothing that can be done, or will be done by the coaches, to reduce the deficiencies of the tight five.
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@Bones I guess the issue is, this coaching group do not seem like they can get the best out of thier players, and PGS looks like his best was 6+ weeks ago, however as you say, he does have alot of really good attributes and if they can get those out of him he looks a real weapon....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones I guess the issue is, this coaching group do not seem like they can get the best out of thier players, and PGS looks like his best was 6+ weeks ago, however as you say, he does have alot of really good attributes and if they can get those out of him he looks a real weapon....
That seems pretty harsh considering the rise of some new players last year and their continued improvement this year. OTOH - Akira, Christie, Taukieaho, Vaai, Lord, Blackadder, Tupaea, Jordan.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
I also don't really get the angst about PGS. I think he's got a lot of really good qualities we've been severely lacking. Definitely put his hand up.
We probably focus so much on the loose forwards because it feels like there's nothing that can be done, or will be done by the coaches, to reduce the deficiencies of the tight five.
@Tim TBH I think its the props that are the real issue and lack of mobility with ball carrying, ruck hitting and hard hitting defence, hopefully this is something they will be working on alot with the current lot to take some of the load off our locks and loosies allowing them to focus more on thier jobs instead of thiers + more
