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Ireland tour to NZ 2022

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    Derm McCrum
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    Five matches in store, with uncapped players, experienced pros and ageing stars lined up for both sides.

    Andy Farrell has just announced his enlarged travelling squad of 40 players with a few expected players missing out through injury. The club season is finished for the Irish provinces with both Leinster and Ulster being defeated by the Stormers and Bulls last weekend.

    Farrell's final squad selection now has a bit more time for recovery as they plan to leave Ireland next week in prep for their first match against NZ Maori on 29 June.

    Backs (18) Bundee Aki, Harry Byrne, Joey Carbery, Craig Casey, Keith Earls, Ciaran Frawley, Jamison Gibson Park, Mack Hansen, Robbie Henshaw, James Hume, Hugo Keenan, Jordan Larmour, James Lowe, Michael Lowry, Conor Murray, Jimmy O’Brien, Garry Ringrose, Johnny Sexton (capt)

    Forwards (22) Ryan Baird, Finlay Bealham, Tadhg Beirne, Jack Conan, Gavin Coombes, Caelan Doris, Tadhg Furlong, Cian Healy, Dave Heffernan, Iain Henderson, Rob Herring, Jeremy Loughman, Joe McCarthy, Peter O’Mahony, Tom O’Toole, Andrew Porter, Cian Prendergast, James Ryan, Dan Sheehan, Nick Timoney, Kieran Treadwell, Josh van der Flier.

    Robert Balacounne, Andrew Conway, Jack Carty, Dave Kilcoyne, Chris Farrell and Ronán Kelleher have been ruled out of the Tour through injury.

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      Five matches in store, with uncapped players, experienced pros and ageing stars lined up for both sides.

      Andy Farrell has just announced his enlarged travelling squad of 40 players with a few expected players missing out through injury. The club season is finished for the Irish provinces with both Leinster and Ulster being defeated by the Stormers and Bulls last weekend.

      Farrell's final squad selection now has a bit more time for recovery as they plan to leave Ireland next week in prep for their first match against NZ Maori on 29 June.

      Backs (18) Bundee Aki, Harry Byrne, Joey Carbery, Craig Casey, Keith Earls, Ciaran Frawley, Jamison Gibson Park, Mack Hansen, Robbie Henshaw, James Hume, Hugo Keenan, Jordan Larmour, James Lowe, Michael Lowry, Conor Murray, Jimmy O’Brien, Garry Ringrose, Johnny Sexton (capt)

      Forwards (22) Ryan Baird, Finlay Bealham, Tadhg Beirne, Jack Conan, Gavin Coombes, Caelan Doris, Tadhg Furlong, Cian Healy, Dave Heffernan, Iain Henderson, Rob Herring, Jeremy Loughman, Joe McCarthy, Peter O’Mahony, Tom O’Toole, Andrew Porter, Cian Prendergast, James Ryan, Dan Sheehan, Nick Timoney, Kieran Treadwell, Josh van der Flier.

      Robert Balacounne, Andrew Conway, Jack Carty, Dave Kilcoyne, Chris Farrell and Ronán Kelleher have been ruled out of the Tour through injury.

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      @Derm-McCrum

      Hey dude, great post and thank you for that.

      Could you please seperate the squad list by position, and highlight the ones who dominated us last year?

      Bonus points for who you think will be the XV or XXIII for the first test.

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        I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

        A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

        Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

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          So full complement to pick from

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            @Derm-McCrum

            Hey dude, great post and thank you for that.

            Could you please seperate the squad list by position, and highlight the ones who dominated us last year?

            Bonus points for who you think will be the XV or XXIII for the first test.

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            Derm McCrum
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            @Tim said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

            @Derm-McCrum

            Hey dude, great post and thank you for that.

            Could you please seperate the squad list by position, and highlight the ones who dominated us last year?

            Bonus points for who you think will be the XV or XXIII for the first test.

            Thanks Tim. I’ll do the separation when I’m sat at a laptop in a little while. And I’ll indicate who played last test. Kelleher was one of them and scored a try IIRC but is out through injury. Conway is another also out through injury.

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              So full complement to pick from

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              Derm McCrum
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              @MiketheSnow said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

              So full complement to pick from

              Nearly. Kelleher and Conway will be missed.

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              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

                A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

                Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

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                @MajorRage said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

                A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

                Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

                Ireland favourites on a NZ tour????
                I’ve heard everything now.
                I’m still getting over the 60-0 whimpering.

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                  @MajorRage said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                  I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

                  A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

                  Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

                  Ireland favourites on a NZ tour????
                  I’ve heard everything now.
                  I’m still getting over the 60-0 whimpering.

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                  @Derm-McCrum said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                  @MajorRage said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                  I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

                  A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

                  Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

                  Ireland favourites on a NZ tour????
                  I’ve heard everything now.
                  I’m still getting over the 60-0 whimpering.

                  Isn't it 3 from the last 5? Last match was green domination.

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                    @Derm-McCrum said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                    @MajorRage said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                    I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

                    A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

                    Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

                    Ireland favourites on a NZ tour????
                    I’ve heard everything now.
                    I’m still getting over the 60-0 whimpering.

                    Isn't it 3 from the last 5? Last match was green domination.

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                    Derm McCrum
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                    @MajorRage said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                    @Derm-McCrum said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                    @MajorRage said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                    I had grave fears for this tour, but I'm somewhat more confident now.

                    A few key players have really stood up recent in the NZ squads and Leinster then looked completely wiped out vs the Bulls in their semi-final. I think they may struggle a bit.

                    Worryingly though, I think this puts us back on more of an even keel than Ireland being favourites!

                    Ireland favourites on a NZ tour????
                    I’ve heard everything now.
                    I’m still getting over the 60-0 whimpering.

                    Isn't it 3 from the last 5? Last match was green domination.

                    Well yes, and 3 from the last 6, 7, 10, 20.....

                    Except wins at home or in neutral territory.

                    On NZ's home patch is a different kettle of fish.

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                      Derm McCrum
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                      Ireland NZ Tour squad by position:
                      *=played in last NZ test; ^=uncapped

                      Centres - Bundee Aki*, Ciaran Frawley^, Robbie Henshaw, James Hume, Garry Ringrose*
                      Out-halves - Johnny Sexton* (capt), Harry Byrne, Joey Carbery*
                      Scrum-halves - Craig Casey, Jamison Gibson Park, Conor Murray*
                      Wingers - Keith Earls*, Mack Hansen, Jordan Larmour, James Lowe*, Jimmy O’Brien^
                      Full-backs - Hugo Keenan*, Michael Lowry

                      Props TH - Finlay Bealham*, Tadhg Furlong*, Tom O’Toole^
                      Props LH - Cian Healy*, Jeremy Loughman^, Andrew Porter*,
                      Hookers - Dave Heffernan, Dan Sheehan, Rob Herring*
                      Locks - Ryan Baird, Tadhg Beirne*, Iain Henderson*, Joe McCarthy^, James Ryan* Kieran Treadwell
                      Backrows - Peter O’Mahony*, Cian Prendergast^, Nick Timoney,, Josh van der Flier*, Jack Conan*, Gavin Coombes, Caelan Doris*

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                        Derm McCrum
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                        2 July First test guess:

                        15-1:
                        Keenan, Lowe, Ringrose, Henshaw, Hansen, Sexton, Gibson-Park
                        Conan, vdF, Doris, Henderson, Beirne, Furlong, Sheehan, Porter

                        Reps: Herring, Healy, O'Toole, Ryan, O'Mahony, Murray, Carbery, O'Brien

                        29 Jun - First match vs Maori guess:

                        Lowry, Earls, Hume, Aki, Larmour, Frawley, Casey
                        Coombes, Prendergast, Timoney, Baird, McCarthy, Bealham, Heffernan, Loughman
                        Reps: Herring, Healy, O'Toole, Treadwell, O'Mahony, Murray, H Byrne, Larmour

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                          2 July First test guess:

                          15-1:
                          Keenan, Lowe, Ringrose, Henshaw, Hansen, Sexton, Gibson-Park
                          Conan, vdF, Doris, Henderson, Beirne, Furlong, Sheehan, Porter

                          Reps: Herring, Healy, O'Toole, Ryan, O'Mahony, Murray, Carbery, O'Brien

                          29 Jun - First match vs Maori guess:

                          Lowry, Earls, Hume, Aki, Larmour, Frawley, Casey
                          Coombes, Prendergast, Timoney, Baird, McCarthy, Bealham, Heffernan, Loughman
                          Reps: Herring, Healy, O'Toole, Treadwell, O'Mahony, Murray, H Byrne, Larmour

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                          chimoaus
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                          @Derm-McCrum Thanks Derm, fantastic to have your knowledge, feel free to invite other Irish supporters, I look forward to your insight and thoughts pre and post games.

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                            @Derm-McCrum Thanks Derm, fantastic to have your knowledge, feel free to invite other Irish supporters, I look forward to your insight and thoughts pre and post games.

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                            @chimoaus said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                            @Derm-McCrum Thanks Derm, fantastic to have your knowledge, feel free to invite other Irish supporters, I look forward to your insight and thoughts pre and post games.

                            Second that. Great to get an Irish perspective from a knowledgeable Irish rugby supporter like @Derm-McCrum

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                              @chimoaus said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                              @Derm-McCrum Thanks Derm, fantastic to have your knowledge, feel free to invite other Irish supporters, I look forward to your insight and thoughts pre and post games.

                              Second that. Great to get an Irish perspective from a knowledgeable Irish rugby supporter like @Derm-McCrum

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                              @chimoaus said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                              @Derm-McCrum Thanks Derm, fantastic to have your knowledge, feel free to invite other Irish supporters, I look forward to your insight and thoughts pre and post games.

                              Second that. Great to get an Irish perspective from a knowledgeable Irish rugby supporter like @Derm-McCrum

                              +1 @Derm-McCrum it is great to have Irish perspective , and one of great joys of rugby to me is always to hear how others see what's happening etc. And we all tend to look at games from the point of view of our team, so Irish view will be most interesting as I may not find any to have a beer with before games (which I normally do on way to game), I going to first Maori game and Wellington test and will be watching for Irish jerseys in pubs then too.

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                                Cheers for the greetings, all. Haven't been back here in a while.

                                Was just checking my historic posts on here on the last time Ireland played NZ at home. Thankfully, the Fern data only goes back to Nov 2012 - my memories and commentary on the 3 test series has been wiped from memory.

                                Not sure if other Irish fans will turn up here, but I'll try nudge a few from other fora.

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                                  Cheers for the greetings, all. Haven't been back here in a while.

                                  Was just checking my historic posts on here on the last time Ireland played NZ at home. Thankfully, the Fern data only goes back to Nov 2012 - my memories and commentary on the 3 test series has been wiped from memory.

                                  Not sure if other Irish fans will turn up here, but I'll try nudge a few from other fora.

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                                  @Derm-McCrum what happened to that big midfielder Stuart McClosky ?

                                  He looked to have the goods but seems to be out of favour.

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                                    Cheers for the greetings, all. Haven't been back here in a while.

                                    Was just checking my historic posts on here on the last time Ireland played NZ at home. Thankfully, the Fern data only goes back to Nov 2012 - my memories and commentary on the 3 test series has been wiped from memory.

                                    Not sure if other Irish fans will turn up here, but I'll try nudge a few from other fora.

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                                    @Derm-McCrum said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                                    Cheers for the greetings, all. Haven't been back here in a while.

                                    Was just checking my historic posts on here on the last time Ireland played NZ at home. Thankfully, the Fern data only goes back to Nov 2012 - my memories and commentary on the 3 test series has been wiped from memory.

                                    Not sure if other Irish fans will turn up here, but I'll try nudge a few from other fora.

                                    Welcome back Mr Hale! 🙂

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                                      MiketheSnow
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                                      Welsh perspective

                                      The Irish boys look knackered

                                      If they can recharge prior to the first test they could nick it

                                      Otherwise 3-0 to NZ

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                                        Welsh perspective

                                        The Irish boys look knackered

                                        If they can recharge prior to the first test they could nick it

                                        Otherwise 3-0 to NZ

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                                        @MiketheSnow Hope they can (recharge)!

                                        We need to know whether the boot was on the other foot last year when - despite the scoreboard - they inflicted one of the most comprehensive defeats I can remember.

                                        We may have been running on fumes - but, also we may not have been.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Derm-McCrum what happened to that big midfielder Stuart McClosky ?

                                          He looked to have the goods but seems to be out of favour.

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                                          @MN5 said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                                          @Derm-McCrum what happened to that big midfielder Stuart McClosky ?

                                          He looked to have the goods but seems to be out of favour.

                                          McCloskey just seems to never have grabbed head coaches' interest. He's been playing really well alongside newbie, James Hume, this season, but still not enough. I think only an injury to one of the selected midfielders would get him into the frame.

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