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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    ā€œEthan de Groot turned [Ofa] Tuungafasi inside out the other week, and then they turn around and say he's not fit enough.

    "What the hell have their so-called trainers been doing all year, keeping in touch with these players??

    Add Loe to the list of punters waiting in the wings for the ABs to fail to justify his opinion.

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    @ACT-Crusader Or maybe he knows a thing or two about the tight five and their past performances and can see the impotence of this present coaching staff.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

      with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybešŸ¤”

      Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

      Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

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      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

      with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybešŸ¤”

      Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

      Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

      There’s quite a bit in the Players agreement around being named in the first squad of the season. If they really needed someone else they would call them in but it does complicate things slightly

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Bummer. The early prognosis was 2-3 weeks.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        Bummer. The early prognosis was 2-3 weeks.

        The 'good' news is that if it hadn't been for scans he'd have played on and probably buggered it properly.

        I imagine he'll make a full recovery.

        No replacement.

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          Frank
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          #3049

          Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

          Possible replacements
          Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
          Josh Goodhue.
          Josh Dickson
          (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

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          • F Frank

            Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

            Possible replacements
            Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
            Josh Goodhue.
            Josh Dickson
            (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

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            Kiwiwomble
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            @Frank

            Josh Dickson would be a long shot i think, in saying that whilst i dont think he's really one to develop anymore being 27, he has developed a bit of mongrel in the least couple of seasons which i dont hate

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

              with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybešŸ¤”

              Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

              Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

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              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

              with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybešŸ¤”

              Seems strange not to replace Lord

              Fozzie ruling Quinten out specifically? šŸ™‚

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                taniwharugby
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                Amusing how the social media post says no replacement to be named, yet I expect Tom and a few others now have hundreds of notifications of people tagging them as options...

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                  Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

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                  • F Frank

                    Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

                    Possible replacements
                    Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
                    Josh Goodhue.
                    Josh Dickson
                    (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

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                    #3054

                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Bummer - One of the players we REALLY needed to develop.

                    Possible replacements
                    Tom Robinson - but seems too light.
                    Josh Goodhue.
                    Josh Dickson
                    (actually liked the look of Zach Gallagher too)

                    @AllBlacks said in social media

                    This rules Josh out for the rest of the All Blacks 2022 season. At this stage the All Blacks will not be bringing in a replacement lock.

                    What you think you know about locks irrelevant

                    https://tenor.com/bFiDc.gif

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                    • F Frank

                      Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

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                      Chris B.
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                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                      Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                      To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                      And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

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                        If they did go for a replacement, like for like would suggest MSR gets a call. Although I might personally plump for maybe IWL. Take a punt.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                          Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                          To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                          And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                          Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                          To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                          And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

                          Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
                          Is it possible?
                          Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                            with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybešŸ¤”

                            Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

                            Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

                            There’s quite a bit in the Players agreement around being named in the first squad of the season. If they really needed someone else they would call them in but it does complicate things slightly

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                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                            with Lord unfortunately gone for the season, Tom Robinson might eventually earn his way into ABs camp maybešŸ¤”

                            Seems strange not to replace Lord, even with a lock. Surely it's worth looking at someone?

                            Adding Robinson would at least put pressure on Vaai to perform as the lock/blindside and give an option to replace him if he gets injured.

                            There’s quite a bit in the Players agreement around being named in the first squad of the season. If they really needed someone else they would call them in but it does complicate things slightly

                            Would they still have to pay Lord if he was already injured when they selected him?

                            More genius selection lol

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                            • F Frank

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                              Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                              To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                              And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

                              Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
                              Is it possible?
                              Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                              Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                              To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                              And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

                              Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
                              Is it possible?
                              Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.

                              Why not just pick him at 6?

                              I would've.

                              Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                                Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                                To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                                And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

                                Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
                                Is it possible?
                                Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.

                                Why not just pick him at 6?

                                I would've.

                                Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.

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                                chimoaus
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                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.

                                Tom's too little to be an AB lock.

                                To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.

                                And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.

                                Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
                                Is it possible?
                                Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.

                                Why not just pick him at 6?

                                I would've.

                                Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.

                                You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?

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                                  So why is Foster not bringing in a replacement for Lord? As a Coach he ia a bloody idiot for not replacing him. That is the $1m question.

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                                    I am sure there will be a replacement player named eventually but there is no need to do that today, the day before the final.

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                                    • number9N number9

                                      So why is Foster not bringing in a replacement for Lord? As a Coach he ia a bloody idiot for not replacing him. That is the $1m question.

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                                      #3063

                                      @number9 It's only three tests. Do they really need more than 4 locks? After all, they may still include a replacement in the RC squad.

                                      For the Ireland Series, maybe they'll use one or more of the Māori ABs locks as injury cover/back-up. Both squads have crossed-over in the past.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @number9 It's only three tests. Do they really need more than 4 locks? After all, they may still include a replacement in the RC squad.

                                        For the Ireland Series, maybe they'll use one or more of the Māori ABs locks as injury cover/back-up. Both squads have crossed-over in the past.

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                                        number9
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                                        @Stargazer issue is that they won't be replacing Lord. They do not say that they will use the Maoris. This just shows how much of a moron Foster is. Bring Robinson into the environment or even Goodhue.

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                                        • number9N number9

                                          @Stargazer issue is that they won't be replacing Lord. They do not say that they will use the Maoris. This just shows how much of a moron Foster is. Bring Robinson into the environment or even Goodhue.

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                                          Stargazer
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                                          @number9 No, I think @Bovidae has a good point. No need to rush it.

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