All Blacks 2022
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@Crucial now definitely $1m and Foster is definitely a moron. You Chiefs supporters need to stop drinking the Foster-Aid
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial now definitely $1m and Foster is definitely a moron. You Chiefs supporters need to stop drinking the Foster-Aid
With all due respect, how on earth have you come up with the idea that the Chiefs posters (including myself) are adamant supporters of Foster?
Happy to be corrected if you can quote some?
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@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial now definitely $1m and Foster is definitely a moron. You Chiefs supporters need to stop drinking the Foster-Aid
With all due respect, how on earth have you come up with the idea that the Chiefs posters (including myself) are adamant supporters of Foster?
Happy to be corrected if you can quote some?
@MajorRage said in All Blacks 2022:
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial now definitely $1m and Foster is definitely a moron. You Chiefs supporters need to stop drinking the Foster-Aid
With all due respect, how on earth have you come up with the idea that the Chiefs posters (including myself) are adamant supporters of Foster?
Happy to be corrected if you can quote some?
I don't know how anyone could come up with the idea that any posters are supporters of Foster. You'd be digging pretty hard to find any truly supportive posts (someone saying they can understand a decision doesn't translate to support unless you're paranoid). Hence I can't understand why that post would be taken seriously...
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.
Tom's too little to be an AB lock.
To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.
And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.
Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
Is it possible?
Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.Why not just pick him at 6?
I would've.
Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.
You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.
Tom's too little to be an AB lock.
To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.
And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.
Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
Is it possible?
Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.Why not just pick him at 6?
I would've.
Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.
You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?
No-one ever thought of playing him at 6, eh?
This is the guy I'm really interested in countering.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.
Tom's too little to be an AB lock.
To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.
And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.
Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
Is it possible?
Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.Why not just pick him at 6?
I would've.
Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.
You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?
No-one ever thought of playing him at 6, eh?
This is the guy I'm really interested in countering.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.
Tom's too little to be an AB lock.
To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.
And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.
Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
Is it possible?
Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.Why not just pick him at 6?
I would've.
Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.
You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?
No-one ever thought of playing him at 6, eh?
This is the guy I'm really interested in countering.
He's class isn't he. I don't know if we have anyone that matches him honestly. Maybe lock Akira in a cage for a few days is our best bet.
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Man, there could be some fireworks tomorrow night.
My hope is that the angry cantab who hates Akira Ioane will show up tomorrow night, to try and assuage his sorrow by bagging him.
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Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
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We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we are knocked out in the quarters to be honest. That’s not a criticism of anyone just a fact of the draw and the quality of the opposition.
Give it a rest with the “Foster’s a moron” stuff. The guy may not be achieving what you would like but that doesn’t make him moronic.
By all means criticise specific aspects of poor decision making or selection but this myth, that has only grown in the off season, of the coaches having no clue at all is tiresome.
The facts are that we don’t have the world class players in numbers that we used to. A world XV would have quite light NZ participation these days.
Foster was backed to perform for a reason. You may not agree with the decision and it is easy to say that someone else would be better but stick to facts. All the things he gets (often rightly) canned for are things that he is patently aware off if you stop to observe some of what is said and done.
FFS the biggest criticism is that he isn’t getting forwards going forward yet when he selects someone like PGS because of his ability to do just that he gets canned again.
I do wonder if some should be looking in mirrors with their name calling. -
Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
They also said 'not at this stage'.
There are 4 good locks selected for this series. At this stage we don't need another. Maybe the next cab is playing tonight and they think it would be an unfair distraction to throw names about?
Sometimes there are quite sensible explanations for things that might seem stupid at another level. -
@Tim I have not ever come across 1 Cantab who likes Akira lol.
Oh wait, Akira chat is forbidden in these boards, whoops.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim I have not ever come across 1 Cantab who likes Akira lol.
Oh wait, Akira chat is forbidden in these boards, whoops.
I like Akira well sort of
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Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
By not replacing Lord, perhaps Foster has decided it's an opportunity to give Vaa'i more game time? Don't forget he's been slagged off for not giving in-form players enough game time or not throwing them in the deep end
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.
Tom's too little to be an AB lock.
To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.
And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.
Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
Is it possible?
Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.Why not just pick him at 6?
I would've.
Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.
You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?
No-one ever thought of playing him at 6, eh?
This is the guy I'm really interested in countering.
He's class isn't he. I don't know if we have anyone that matches him honestly. Maybe lock Akira in a cage for a few days is our best bet.
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
Perhaps if Tom tears it up in the grand final, then he might be named? Nah, probably not.
Tom's too little to be an AB lock.
To be honest, Eklund looks pretty small to be a contender at hooker as well - though he has played well this season. I would have been pretty surprised to see him there, so Tana and Richard not convincing me.
And if de Groot has failed to meet his fitness targets, which seems to have been widely publicised, then I'm pleased to see Fozzie taking a leaf out of Dame Noeline's book and giving him a boot up the arse.
Would it be possible and how long would it take for someone like Tom Robinson to put on 5kg?
Is it possible?
Certainly has the workrate, right attitude and lineout prowess.Why not just pick him at 6?
I would've.
Guys with his height and mobility don't grow on trees - whereas at lock he's always going to be stretching in terms of height and weight.
You realise he is taller than Scott Barrett?
No-one ever thought of playing him at 6, eh?
This is the guy I'm really interested in countering.
He's class isn't he. I don't know if we have anyone that matches him honestly. Maybe lock Akira in a cage for a few days is our best bet.
There was 20 minutes in one of those games vs South Africa, last year, where their forwards really went to work on us - and that was without Big Pieter-Steph.
I'm pretty concerned that we may end up on a path with a bunch of 7.5s in our forward pack and the Jaapie forwards will blow us off the park. I don't know that our forwards have a lot of fear factor about them - Samisoni brings some, Akira but so far "on his day".
I tend to think the Jaaps would spend more time worrying about our backs.
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We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
How on earth do you claim moronic when you are predicting us to beat South Africa or maybe Ireland in the same breath. We have an extremely lopsided draw at RWC. If we win qf then should be a very winnable semi. Most punters would pick AB's out in QF or making final I suspect.
If no injuries to other 4 locks why name a replacement now. Seems very sensible not moronic. If Vaii or Barrett are crocked then Robinson is likely replacement. But if Whitelock or Retallick then I would be watching MSR closely and Quentin Strange instead. -
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we are knocked out in the quarters to be honest. That’s not a criticism of anyone just a fact of the draw and the quality of the opposition.
Give it a rest with the “Foster’s a moron” stuff. The guy may not be achieving what you would like but that doesn’t make him moronic.
By all means criticise specific aspects of poor decision making or selection but this myth, that has only grown in the off season, of the coaches having no clue at all is tiresome.
The facts are that we don’t have the world class players in numbers that we used to. A world XV would have quite light NZ participation these days.
Foster was backed to perform for a reason. You may not agree with the decision and it is easy to say that someone else would be better but stick to facts. All the things he gets (often rightly) canned for are things that he is patently aware off if you stop to observe some of what is said and done.
FFS the biggest criticism is that he isn’t getting forwards going forward yet when he selects someone like PGS because of his ability to do just that he gets canned again.
I do wonder if some should be looking in mirrors with their name calling.@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
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@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
I'm not sure what you are saying at the start of the post.
I haven't claimed that Foster and Co are doing everything well just that it is getting boring hearing this constant 'the coaches are morons' rubblish. They quite obviously know more about about how to run a test team than you or I so at least stop calling them idiots that know nothing. Is Grant Fox a moron? Because he also believes that we aren't far off what we are trying to achieve.
They are making decisions and selecting players that you may not agree with and you may prefer a different approach. Stick to that instead of the tedious name calling.
Yes, we are used to winning but it isn't a right. Other countries have improved massively and deserve their wins as well. Have we really been strategically stupid or have they been smarter? We have certainly lacked the answers at times to the things other teams have brought and need to work out how to change things on the fly (easier said than done) but you can't blame the coaches when others bring clever tactics that surprise.
There's a hell of a lot that goes on in sports teams that us punters don't know about. It's fun to feel involved and comment but at times the talk here drops to some pretty base levels -
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we are knocked out in the quarters to be honest. That’s not a criticism of anyone just a fact of the draw and the quality of the opposition.
Give it a rest with the “Foster’s a moron” stuff. The guy may not be achieving what you would like but that doesn’t make him moronic.
By all means criticise specific aspects of poor decision making or selection but this myth, that has only grown in the off season, of the coaches having no clue at all is tiresome.
The facts are that we don’t have the world class players in numbers that we used to. A world XV would have quite light NZ participation these days.
Foster was backed to perform for a reason. You may not agree with the decision and it is easy to say that someone else would be better but stick to facts. All the things he gets (often rightly) canned for are things that he is patently aware off if you stop to observe some of what is said and done.
FFS the biggest criticism is that he isn’t getting forwards going forward yet when he selects someone like PGS because of his ability to do just that he gets canned again.
I do wonder if some should be looking in mirrors with their name calling.@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
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@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
See, this is the kind of odd comment that I'm talking about. What do you or I know about the players needs and how to get the best out of them? Do we know what goes on in camp? How players are treated or how expectations are communicated? I certainly don't.
It just smacks of 'back in my day' type rubbish.
One of the keys to the recent golden era was the change in treatment of players, leadership and communication. I doubt very much that going back to Laurie and Grizz would do anything except appease talkback callers for a moment of two.
