All Blacks 2022
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@Bones you might be thinking of de Groot? He was born in Oz
@ACT-Crusader that's the bugger
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Last year we had Lomax, de Groot, Frizell in addition to those others
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Really TAB?
Wouldn't surprise me if that the team. Don't think there will be a lot of changes from that.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Really TAB?
Wouldn't surprise me if that the team. Don't think there will be a lot of changes from that.
It's one of the easiest teams to pick in ages yet the TAB still fuck it up.
My guess is that RM and BB swap (for combination given the short prep), The wings are the other way around and that maybe Goodhue is on bench rather than LF -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Really TAB?
Wouldn't surprise me if that the team. Don't think there will be a lot of changes from that.
It's one of the easiest teams to pick in ages yet the TAB still fuck it up.
My guess is that RM and BB swap (for combination given the short prep), The wings are the other way around and that maybe Goodhue is on bench rather than LF -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Really TAB?
Wouldn't surprise me if that the team. Don't think there will be a lot of changes from that.
It's one of the easiest teams to pick in ages yet the TAB still fuck it up.
My guess is that RM and BB swap (for combination given the short prep), The wings are the other way around and that maybe Goodhue is on bench rather than LF -
@Bones Swap Jordan and Reece, and Scott Barrett instead of Whitelock (because of his injury), and then it's close, I think.
I'd also start Rieko instead of the mysterious Reiko.@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones Swap Jordan and Reece, and Scott Barrett instead of Whitelock (because of his injury), and then it's close, I think.
I'd also start Rieko instead of the mysterious Reiko.Reiko the mysterious middle-aged Japanese woman?
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To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.
If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.
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Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now?
That won't be far away from the team.
I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.
BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.
I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.
Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.
Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.
Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14!
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Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now?
That won't be far away from the team.
I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.
BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.
I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.
Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.
Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.
Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14!
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@Chris-B George Bower makes Otago fans like myself proud, his trajectory has been great to see! easily my 2nd fav George in Rugby
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B George Bower makes Otago fans like myself proud, his trajectory has been great to see! easily my 2nd fav George in Rugby
After Bridge?
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Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now?
That won't be far away from the team.
I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.
BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.
I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.
Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.
Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.
Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14!
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Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now?
That won't be far away from the team.
I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.
BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.
I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.
Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.
Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.
Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now?
That won't be far away from the team.
I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.
BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.
I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.
Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.
Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.
Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14!
As a scrummaging unit the Chiefs FR handled everything thrown their way and even dominated a few times. It wouldn't be silly to have them together at some stage.
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To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.
If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.
If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.
Agree on Goodhue. 17 out of his 18 tests as a starter. The Goodhue/Ioane was the last combo they went with when Goodhue was fit. That way they could have Havili/RTS/Tupaea on the bench.
Has the AB coaches said that about Karl T? I’m more of the view that he’s an insurance policy because Moody is out. They need to mix and match Laulala and Karl T.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.
If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.
Agree on Goodhue. 17 out of his 18 tests as a starter. The Goodhue/Ioane was the last combo they went with when Goodhue was fit. That way they could have Havili/RTS/Tupaea on the bench.
Has the AB coaches said that about Karl T? I’m more of the view that he’s an insurance policy because Moody is out. They need to mix and match Laulala and Karl T.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.
If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.
Agree on Goodhue. 17 out of his 18 tests as a starter. The Goodhue/Ioane was the last combo they went with when Goodhue was fit. That way they could have Havili/RTS/Tupaea on the bench.
Has the AB coaches said that about Karl T? I’m more of the view that he’s an insurance policy because Moody is out. They need to mix and match Laulala and Karl T.
I reckon they looked at what they had and realised they were extremely green in the LH dept so he was a panic selection.
Ross is probably a better scrummager than Bower but maybe some combos between LH and hooker will sway decisions? Bower with Codie and Ross with Sami? -
I think we can, and should, look to attack the Irish scrum. They were regularly under pressure against England and France, particularly on the LH side, so it makes sense to try to dominate there and get some momentum for your attack.
@ACT-Crusader Here is what Plumtree said:
“We see Karl as so important. He’s probably our strongest loosehead scrummager. We know what we face in the next five tests – pretty tough contests up front – so Karl’s experience is going to be massive.”
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Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now?
That won't be far away from the team.
I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.
BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.
I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.
Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.
Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.
Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14!
it's either Right wing or FB for him just like Bender was
