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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

    Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

    Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

    That was announced this year, the new way to break open rush defences. Surely it will not be try to fling it wide really fast still? I mean hasn't worked since 2017

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

      Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

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      @mariner4life just made a tricky series opener, more spicy...

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

        Now it's getting serious!

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

        Now it's getting serious!

        Thought he'd be able to outpace it. Disappointed.

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          Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
          Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
            Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

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            @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
            Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

            Got both tens, and it is not even decimated in the traditional sense, yet.

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              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

              Now it's getting serious!

              Thought he'd be able to outpace it. Disappointed.

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              @Frank said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

              Now it's getting serious!

              Thought he'd be able to outpace it. Disappointed.

              Longer than everyone but 2 in the squad. AMazing how fat fozzie managed it for so long, just behind Jordan! 😛

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              • TimT Tim

                @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                1 Ross
                2 Taylor
                3 Laulala
                4 Retallick
                5 Whitelock
                6 Ioane
                7 Cane
                8 Savea
                9 Christie
                10 Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 RTS
                13 Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Perofeta

                16 Taukei'aho
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Barrett
                20 Papalii
                21 Fakatava
                22 Mo'unga
                23 Fainga'anuku

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                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                1 Ross
                2 Taylor
                3 Laulala
                4 Retallick
                5 Whitelock
                6 Ioane
                7 Cane
                8 Savea
                9 Christie
                10 Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 RTS
                13 Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Perofeta

                16 Taukei'aho
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Barrett
                20 Papalii
                21 Fakatava
                22 Mo'unga
                23 Fainga'anuku

                This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                  1 Ross
                  2 Taylor
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Retallick
                  5 Whitelock
                  6 Ioane
                  7 Cane
                  8 Savea
                  9 Christie
                  10 Barrett
                  11 Clarke
                  12 RTS
                  13 Ioane
                  14 Reece
                  15 Perofeta

                  16 Taukei'aho
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Barrett
                  20 Papalii
                  21 Fakatava
                  22 Mo'unga
                  23 Fainga'anuku

                  This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                  Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

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                  #131

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                  1 Ross
                  2 Taylor
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Retallick
                  5 Whitelock
                  6 Ioane
                  7 Cane
                  8 Savea
                  9 Christie
                  10 Barrett
                  11 Clarke
                  12 RTS
                  13 Ioane
                  14 Reece
                  15 Perofeta

                  16 Taukei'aho
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Barrett
                  20 Papalii
                  21 Fakatava
                  22 Mo'unga
                  23 Fainga'anuku

                  This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                  Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                  Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

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                    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                    1 Ross
                    2 Taylor
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Retallick
                    5 Whitelock
                    6 Ioane
                    7 Cane
                    8 Savea
                    9 Christie
                    10 Barrett
                    11 Clarke
                    12 RTS
                    13 Ioane
                    14 Reece
                    15 Perofeta

                    16 Taukei'aho
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Barrett
                    20 Papalii
                    21 Fakatava
                    22 Mo'unga
                    23 Fainga'anuku

                    This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                    Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                    Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                    1 Ross
                    2 Taylor
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Retallick
                    5 Whitelock
                    6 Ioane
                    7 Cane
                    8 Savea
                    9 Christie
                    10 Barrett
                    11 Clarke
                    12 RTS
                    13 Ioane
                    14 Reece
                    15 Perofeta

                    16 Taukei'aho
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Barrett
                    20 Papalii
                    21 Fakatava
                    22 Mo'unga
                    23 Fainga'anuku

                    This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                    Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                    Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                    Scott Bar'ret?

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                      1 Ross
                      2 Taylor
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Retallick
                      5 Whitelock
                      6 Ioane
                      7 Cane
                      8 Savea
                      9 Christie
                      10 Barrett
                      11 Clarke
                      12 RTS
                      13 Ioane
                      14 Reece
                      15 Perofeta

                      16 Taukei'aho
                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                      19 Barrett
                      20 Papalii
                      21 Fakatava
                      22 Mo'unga
                      23 Fainga'anuku

                      This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                      Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                      Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                      Scott Bar'ret?

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                      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                      1 Ross
                      2 Taylor
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Retallick
                      5 Whitelock
                      6 Ioane
                      7 Cane
                      8 Savea
                      9 Christie
                      10 Barrett
                      11 Clarke
                      12 RTS
                      13 Ioane
                      14 Reece
                      15 Perofeta

                      16 Taukei'aho
                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                      19 Barrett
                      20 Papalii
                      21 Fakatava
                      22 Mo'unga
                      23 Fainga'anuku

                      This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                      Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                      Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                      Scott Bar'ret?

                      The ' stands for card (colour dependant on the occasion).

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                        1 Ross
                        2 Taylor
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Retallick
                        5 Whitelock
                        6 Ioane
                        7 Cane
                        8 Savea
                        9 Christie
                        10 Barrett
                        11 Clarke
                        12 RTS
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Reece
                        15 Perofeta

                        16 Taukei'aho
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Barrett
                        20 Papalii
                        21 Fakatava
                        22 Mo'unga
                        23 Fainga'anuku

                        This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                        Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                        Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                        Scott Bar'ret?

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                        @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

                        1 Ross
                        2 Taylor
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Retallick
                        5 Whitelock
                        6 Ioane
                        7 Cane
                        8 Savea
                        9 Christie
                        10 Barrett
                        11 Clarke
                        12 RTS
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Reece
                        15 Perofeta

                        16 Taukei'aho
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Barrett
                        20 Papalii
                        21 Fakatava
                        22 Mo'unga
                        23 Fainga'anuku

                        This lineup starting to look very close. I would swap the hookers around starting/bench altough it's still possible Bower is there over Ross.
                        Would loosehead/hooker combos be the way to go?

                        Can’t do that, would break the rule that if you have a ‘ in your name you gotta be on the bench

                        Scott Bar'ret?

                        Note I didn’t say you have to have one, just if you do you’re bench warming. RTS is on thin ice with his -

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                          All these players going down with COVID

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                            When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

                            I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

                              I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

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                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              When did Caleb Clarke last play a game?

                              I guess he played between getting red carded and getting injured?

                              Brumbies 2nd last regular season game. Blew his hamstring out in the second half.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                                Now it's getting serious!

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                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                                Now it's getting serious!

                                Annoying. Jordan was awesome last year, and after his Super form I was looking forward to him absolutely fucking carving up this year. Hope he recovers for test 2.

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                                  Now it's getting serious!

                                  Annoying. Jordan was awesome last year, and after his Super form I was looking forward to him absolutely fucking carving up this year. Hope he recovers for test 2.

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                                  @No-Quarter Yeah - with CC not having played in a while and Leicester being an absolute rookie, I was pretty sure they were planning to start Reece and Jordan on the wings (unless the outlier of playing Goodhue at centre and shifting Rieko out) and maybe ease Clarke in from the bench.

                                  Now the options are pretty narrow.

                                  A big test for Leicester to make his debut in, so it won't surprise me to see Ennor in the 23.

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                                      With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                                      1 Bower
                                      2 Taylor
                                      3 Laulala
                                      4 Retallick
                                      5 Whitelock
                                      6 Vaa'i
                                      7 Cane
                                      8 Savea
                                      9 Christie
                                      10 Barrett
                                      11 Fainga’anuku
                                      12 Tupaea
                                      13 Ioane
                                      14 Reece
                                      15 J Barrett

                                      16 Taukei'aho
                                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                                      19 Barrett
                                      20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                                      21 Fakatava
                                      22 Mo'unga
                                      23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                                      Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                                      I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                                      I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                                        With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                                        1 Bower
                                        2 Taylor
                                        3 Laulala
                                        4 Retallick
                                        5 Whitelock
                                        6 Vaa'i
                                        7 Cane
                                        8 Savea
                                        9 Christie
                                        10 Barrett
                                        11 Fainga’anuku
                                        12 Tupaea
                                        13 Ioane
                                        14 Reece
                                        15 J Barrett

                                        16 Taukei'aho
                                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                                        19 Barrett
                                        20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                                        21 Fakatava
                                        22 Mo'unga
                                        23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                                        Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                                        I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                                        I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                                        @ThecostlyJoel Welcome to the Fern! :waving_hand:

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                                          With all these issues coming through this is what I think might be the announced team.

                                          1 Bower
                                          2 Taylor
                                          3 Laulala
                                          4 Retallick
                                          5 Whitelock
                                          6 Vaa'i
                                          7 Cane
                                          8 Savea
                                          9 Christie
                                          10 Barrett
                                          11 Fainga’anuku
                                          12 Tupaea
                                          13 Ioane
                                          14 Reece
                                          15 J Barrett

                                          16 Taukei'aho
                                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                                          19 Barrett
                                          20 Sotutu (or Akira)
                                          21 Fakatava
                                          22 Mo'unga
                                          23 Perofeta (or Ennor)

                                          Obviously I would have probably missed some injuries and/or health issues. But from what info I've come across this is what I think could happen.

                                          I chose QT as 2nd 5 and he can be covered by J Barrett and Fainga’anuku which is why I've put Perofeta at 23 to cover 15 if needed. But that's probably asking a lot from them so I'd have Ennor at 23 as an option too. I can see RTS playing later on in the series, just not the first game, but you never know.

                                          I've also added Vaa'i at 6 even though he mainly plays lock because he's had a good season and can bring a punch. Nothing against Akira. The man's a beast too.

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                                          @ThecostlyJoel Welcome Joel!

                                          Crikey - the backs look a bit Super rugby level to me - strong Super rugby, but a bit short of Big All Black test level!

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